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Anonymous:
Jay, FL isn't that like KKK territory? scary.
Anonymous:
Ft Lauderdale, when you were flying around Lauderhill mall, did you fly over to the record store and buy anything?
hehe..I worked there part time.
marshall:
Lauderhill mall. That brings back memories. I lived pretty close to it as an oldtimer and used to walk around there quiet a bit. It was nice at the time. I remember going to world bazaar, the bookstore and eating chocolate tophats from vi's bakery. Man! I miss those. Haven't found them anywhere else.
F.L. I know you want to preserve your anonymity, but since you remember me...did we know each other well enough to speak? I lived at the guy's apartments in lauderhill (?) for several months before I graduated the program.
OH! And I just thought of something else positive I learned at the seed. Rusty taught me to play Nights in White Satin on the guitar. And someone mentioned smoke-rings. I was so tickled when I learned to blow those.
marshall:
Raps. I've always wondered why some hippy words were ok to use at the seed and others weren't. Man, like, chick (seems very sexist). And robert seemed to get away with using even more racey or 'cool' language. I suspect this again goes back to what art considered ok. I recall art using some beatnik era lingo. He was always saying something was a gas.
But cool...that was a definite no no. Along with far-out, right-on or out of sight (this was early 70's). Music by all those mafioso, alcohol-drinking and pot smoking jazz and swing musicians was ok...because art liked it. Music by led zeppelin or pink floyd was not ok...a bunch of druggie assholes...is the way libby described led zeppelin when someone requested that a guy playing guitar in the group play stairway to heaven. I remember the guilt I felt the first time I put on some headphones and listened to Yes while an oldcomer. Listening to non-approved rock was 'rocking out'...like thinking non-approved thoughts was 'getting into your head' or philosophizing or if you questioned the inconsistency of any seed concept..you were just analyzing. All standard mind-control techniques. Thinking back on it, I'm not even sure that staff would have denied that it was all brainwashing or mindcontrol. It was too obvious. I think they just figured it was for a higher purpose...the ends justify the means.
GregFL:
Art acknowledged in the press the seed was a "form of brainwashing." My father used to say my brain needed a good washing. The f'n congress of the united states reported that the seed used brainwashing techniques, and it was common knowledge among everyone.
It was no secret, and your right, it was all about the higher purpose..."saving" little kids from certian death, insanity or jail.
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