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cleveland:
I don't want to substitute one form af magical thinking for another - the Seed capitalized on my gullibility, to just "do not think," to accept irrationality.

I'm not a purist on this - I think astrology is interesting, I am intriqued by religion, and I do think the government, military and corporations are full of manipulation.

But for me the bottom line will be rationality, and maybe I'll temper that with accepting that I can't know or understand everything...

But wild assertions? Just because it's emotionally appealing sometimes to say, "Hmm hmm, you know that's right," - no thanks, I think it's dangerous to give in to that.

Maybe if I'd asked the Seed to 'prove it,' and I'd listened to the sceptical voice inside, I wouldn't have believed all of the half-truths the Seed passed on to me....

Anonymous:
What half truths do you speak of?  Please elaborate.

cleveland:
That I 'couldn't make it on my own out there'

That if I ever had a drink, that I 'might as well give up then because I'd already be so far gone'

That people are either Seedlings, or 'dry druggies'

That 'honesty is the first and most important rule;' however, questioning Art, staff or the Seed is 'totally fucked up.'

That my Higher Power can be whatever, it doesn't matter - 'it could be that stool over there' but 'for me it's the Group.' (for me, it's a life-long search.)

That all girls are 'gamey'

That 'getting into your head' or analyzing thiings, is bad - 'ours is but to do or die, not to reason why'

And for me, personally, that reading books, having an intellegent discussion, or thinking, is 'showing off,' or that making artwork is 'for girls'

Those were things I was told (in quotes) or taught and I have found them to be wrong.

GregFL:
And there are more...many more.

How about this one  "I could never leave the seed..the songs would play over and over in my head and I think I would end up insane."

Or even this one  "when I was on the streets".

Fuck, most of us were suburban kids from upper middle class to wealth families.  On the streets? Hardly. It was part of the big lie to make your past extra bad in order to justify the crazy cultic aspects of the seed.

Anonymous:
"That my Higher Power can be whatever, it doesn't matter - 'it could be that stool over there' but 'for me it's the Group.'"


did anyone ever say anything else?

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