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14 Year old Dies at THAYER LEARNING CENTER
Cruella:
My daughter is at Thayer. She entered 12/04. I believe she is making the program work for her. She was lost before the decision was made to enroll her there. She made bad choices and doors of opportunity were beginning to close. She is making remarkable changes in her life with the help of Thayer. I'm sure there will be questions, flaming, etc., with my decision to send her to boot camp, but looking at the alternatives for her, this was the best choice.
Antigen:
Not here please, Cruella. Seriously. Thayer is a whole lot more frightening than what we had to deal with. I'm asking you respectfully to please not joke around here.
All who doubted or denied would be lost. To live a moral and honest life -- to keep your contracts, to take care of wife and child -- to make a happy home -- to be a good citizen, a patriot, a just and thoughtful man, was simply a respectable way of going to hell.
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Anonymous:
Cruella, Why on earth would you send your daughter to a program where you know they abuse and medically neglect the kids? For gosh sakes a kid died there what more do you need to know about the place? The boy who had his foot broke with their bare hands isn't enough? Come on lady. My daughter seemed to be flourishing there as well and then I went to check the place out after i heard about Roberto Reyes getting killed and saw that the place was a dungeon. I got a full tour. Yes I even saw one of the four isolation rooms. I had the pleasure of seeing the one the boy passed away in. I almost puked at the sight of it. It was the size of a broom closet. I'm not joking. Not even a bed was in this room. Of course not because a bed wouldn't have fit in this room. Let me tell you lady you're being jaded. This place is a living hell. Your daughter is doing just as well as they want you to think she's doing. If by chance you've talked to her and things seem great well let me tell you that if she tells you otherwise she will be punished severely. Dropped back to bootcamp for lying and manipulating. Believe me you don't know the first thing about how your daughter is doing. My daughter spent 4 months there. She is still having nightmares. Who knows how much counseling she'll need to get over the whole ordeal. And the whole time I believed that everything was peachy. Yeah peachy right up until I heard about the boys death. My gut was telling me for the whole 4 months that things weren't right but my husband kept saying I was just worried. Well I finally flew back there because my gut started screaming after the boy died. Boy did I make the right decision. I wanted to take her out sooner but I didn't know what I would do with her and her behaviors that got her there. Well those behaviors are all gone. She's so scared that she might have to go to another program. I guess you could call her scared strait. I've talked to girls who went throught the whole program and they told me that they faked it, they hated it and now they're rebelling because they resent having their teen age years robbed from them and not being believed about being abused there. I'm sorry but I don't believe that this program could help anybody get a better life. Yes it can help if you're looking for a program to teach your child how to lie and manipulate because they do a wonderful job of that. Well I've said enough for now. If you really do have a daughter at thayer please rethink it. At least go visit your daughter unannounced and demand to talk to her out in the field with no serveylance cameras or recorders. It's the least you can do. Thayer will tell you that she's lying and manipulating you but read the other stories and remember that she doesn't know what others are saying so you'll know she's not lying if she says similar things. Also if you haven't gone to isaccorp yet please go and read about the Reyes lawsuit. It's all true. And for your daughters sake I hope she's white because there's special treatment for kids who aren't and that's not a good thing.www.isaccorp.org is the address and go to the left and scroll down until you come to I think it's information then click on thayer. You'll learn all sorts of insane stuff about the place. Well good luck. I hope you at least go see your daughter. Please feel free to e-mail me back any time. I've got all sorts of information. I interviewed the neighbors, the people in town. I did a lot of research while I was in Missouri and none of it turned out good.My e-mail address is piaelouis@yahoo.com
Cruella:
I'm not joking. I did take the tour. We took our daughter there ourselves, showed up unannounced and toured the place, before making the final decision to enroll her there. Sure it's hard, it's military boot camp.
I thank you for the information you've provided and will think about it. I've done a lot of research about this place before deciding on it over places that were similar, this one seemed to fit our daughter better. I will email you.[ This Message was edited by: Cruella on 2005-03-16 08:01 ]
tlcrescue:
Of course all the things they show you before you enroll your child are peachy. They were the same way when I enrolled my child. I find it odd that they let you tour the facilities unannounced though. When I arrived "unannounced" they refused me access to the building! My son was only there one week and, like Pia above, my "gut" was telling me something wasn't right, so one week after enrolling him I arrived unannounced to pick him up. I was in SHOCK at what I saw! He is ankle was so swollen you couldn't see where the ankle started and stopped. After a trip to the emergency room, it was determined the ankle was fractured. This occurred on his first day there at the hands of a drill seargant and, despite numerous requests to see a doctor, he was denied medical treatment. Furthermore, he was forced to exercise 18 hours a day on the fractured ankle. He had a cough so horrible, it was just unreal. He had major bronchitis, borderline pnemonia. Again, he requested to see a doctor for this the one week he was there, but again, was denied. He had soooo many cuts and bruises on his body it was unbelievable. The cause? Being hog-tied to another student and dragged through the showers. The reason for this punishment? He wet his pants after being refused bathroom breaks repeatedly.
Does that sound like the way to help your child? Sure, if you want them "beat into submission" they will listen to you. But, we as parents arent allowed to beat our children into submission (not that I ever would), because it is against the law. So, what gives them the right to do so. And to make it even worse, YOU ARE PAYING THEM TO ABUSE AND NEGLECT YOUR CHILD.
I received my son's first letter home after I had already picked him and, if I hadn't picked him up when I did, by reading the letter he wrote, it seemed this place was a "God send" for him. It was a very glowing and positive letter. The clincher? Ask him how many times he was forced to rewrite it until it was to the liking of his family rep. SIX TIMES! My son had to rewrite his letter home SIX TIMES, because each time he gave them the letter it obtained forbidden information. After the fifth letter he was "coached" on what to write because they were getting "frustrated" with the fact that he kept putting negative things about the program into his letter. Care to know what some of the negative things in the letter were? Just one example, Mom, my chest hurts so bad I can't breath, and I really need to see a doctor. But, that is not acceptable to the staff, so they made him rewrite it, over and over, and over, and over and over and over!
So yes, when your daughter writes you and tells you how great it is, those are not her words, they are the coached words of your family rep. When you talk to her on thr phone, there is someone standing right next to her on the same line listening to every word exchanged between the two of you. And, your daugther knows, especially after having been there for 3 months, that if she says anything derogatory about the program, she will pay the price!
If you have any love at all for your daugther, show up there NOW, UNANNOUNCED and DEMAND to see your daugther out of their presence. If she tells you the same things you have read on this board they must be true, because she would never have met any of the other students you hear about on here!
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