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The ring
Anonymous:
The whole idea of the ring sounds absuive but it really wasn't.They would make you wear these big huge gloves that really didn't do any damage to anyone.It was like hitting someone with a pillow followed by some weight to it.I never seen anyone get hurt, but I'm sure there was people that got hurt,I just didn't think it really hurt when someone hit you with those huge gloves on.
Anonymous:
It was you idiot, what about that kid who got his nose broken?
Matt C. Hoffman:
74 to 76 I saw many people go in the ring . As residents we were told that the only way you would be put in to the ring is if you broke the cardnal rule of no physical violence of any kind .
Yet as one became more aware of what was going on in the place you quickly came to realize that the ring was used at the whim of the directors .
I saw noses broken and people hurt ,it was a sick and violent way to treat people .
And no it does not surprise me that someone with an anuerysm died in the ring .It does surprise me that someone dies in the ring and elan remains unscathed .
Something smells very rotten in the state o maine and it smells like death .
Anonymous:
The whole idea of the ring sounds absuive but it really wasn't.They would make you wear these big huge gloves that really didn't do any damage to anyone.It was like hitting someone with a pillow followed by some weight to it.I never seen anyone get hurt, but I'm sure there was people that got hurt,I just didn't think it really hurt when someone hit you with those huge gloves on.......................
sounds like it was abusive but wasnt??? my mind warbles at the possibilty that someone could actually think that ,, unless of course your staff or just a plant..i wont regress to calling you names,,if youve never seen welts left from a 1 pound glove i guess u can consider yourself lucky. i guess by that reasoning it wasnt abusive to step on peoples neck , keeping there face in the corner,it didnt really hurt them. so what if they were made to piss themselves,, its just a lille piss.and the residents{im mostly refering to women} who were forced to divulge extremely personal incidents ,, then be made to wear a sign that does nuthin but belittle and degrade even further?the worst 1 i saw was "please ask me how i feel about having to have sex with my mother at gunpoint"i mean cmon,, staff had no real clue,, and were sick ,, twisted fucks,, as well as completely without imagination,, unless was leaning towards depravety..but its ok,, it only looks real bad
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-12-14 00:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"my mind warbles at the possibilty that someone could actually think that ,, unless of course your staff or just a plant"
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Or just hasn't got it all sorted out yet. When I first got out, HRS (Florida's CPS agency in those days) was investigating Straight and wanted me to testify. I couldn't say I was abused because, at the time, I didn't view it that way. The one time I got sat on, I viewed it as my choice and it didn't bother me. They'd ask if I ever saw anyone get sat on and I'd say "Well yes, but they were misbehaving."
The group was very much like family to me. Family I didn't particularly want to ever see again, but family none the less. I didn't want to hurt them and I had, after all, agreed to everything at every step along the way. And there was the confidentiality thing. Then there was the problem of people just not understanding.
Do I testify that Robin Peele was the staff in group that after noon when I got sat on? Why would I do that? She didn't order it and she sent the girl back to group who had covered my mouth and nose. I thought she was being very reasonable and kind. I still believe she and the other staff thought they were doing the right thing. They probably don't believe that these days any more than I do.
I couldn't explain to anyone why I was so desperate to get out when I did. It didn't even make sense to me. It was only a couple more months till I turned 18, I was on the highest phase already. Any Friday then, I was sure they were going to graduate me. But I just had to get the hell out, get away, clear my head RIGHT THEN!!It took awhile.
The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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