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Anonymous:
I wonder... was it to teach other people a lesson...or was it more for staffs benefit....so they could see who the really strong people were...the people who would actually pose more of a threat... not the ones getting their ass kicked in the ring....but the ones doing the ass-kicking...
i went in the ring....i'll never forget it as long as i live.................

pennymck:
I hated the ring. I never went in it, nor volenteered. I don't understand how everyone could keep cheering on the line of people who would go against that one guy. It was totally wrong, and how it was ever allowed in the first place legally or any other way is totally beyond me.

davbetz:
In 1982, at Elan 7, I had a friend die after going into the ring. It was always a no win situation, putting new people in to "modify" the behavior of 1 individual. I think, like most things there, it was used as a deterrant. Another cheap ploy to get people to submit. Only in this case it wasn't cheap, a 16 year old died......
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
--Edmund Burke
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davbetz:
In 1982, at Elan 7, I had a friend die after going into the ring. It was always a no win situation, putting new people in to "modify" the behavior of 1 individual. I think, like most things there, it was used as a deterrant. Another cheap ploy to get people to submit. Only in this case it wasn't cheap, a 16 year old died......
Whoever kindles the flames of intolerance in America is lighting a fire underneath his own home.
--Harold E. Stassen, 1947
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Matt C. Hoffman:
Dave

Could you tell this board a little more about this incident . Who was running the ring ,which director(s) were present ,etc,etc.

On a personal level I am appalled at this incident . A state investigation at that time was certaintly warranteed .Did ONE happen .What in the hell happened!?

elan has got some really dirty little secrets,obviously this is one of them

Shame on the state of Maine ,shame on elan .

Best wishes to you Dave .

Matt

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