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sayings in the seed and what they really meant.

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Che Gookin:
I remember reading some of the threads about Helen Peterman, quite the bit of hate for the woman.

You ever run across her in the SEED?

none-ya:

--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---I remember reading some of the threads about Helen Peterman, quite the bit of hate for the woman.

You ever run across her in the SEED?
--- End quote ---

Only when I first got there. She interviewed my parents and me. She seemed really nice. (I can't believe I said that). But it's true. Everything was groovy until the got me in the group. And then all of a sudden things really started to suck.

Che Gookin:
I'm afraid to even ask.... but now I'm curious... what happened?

DannyB II:
NoneYa did you have any groups that were run by residents turned staff or by senior residents? What kind of group therapy did the Seed have?
At Marathon House we had an encounter group where you were confronted on why you were there and or your behavior while there. At Élan we had an encounter group also but ramped up about 100 octaves. It was a very aggressive style of communicating your displeasure with someone. This group served no "real life" purpose at all. We also had a primal scream therapy group which was supposed to allow for the excising of emotions that you denied due to fear. Ya right....it caused more damage than good. The last form of group or confrontation was a GM or General Meeting. This is where you were placed standing in front of your peers in a room and they could charge at you and scream in your face their displeasure they had for you. Would was usually fabricated from staff and directors and fed to you as propaganda to fuel the fire inside you. We were already on edge most of the time so it didn't take much to ramp us up.
Can you identify with any of this while you were at the Seed?
I have often wondered if the Seed was much like Daytop during the 60's and 70's. I was placed at a satellite of Daytop by my mother and her cousin who worked with the Superintendent of Schools in Hartford Ct. It was like a "Scared Staright" moment they were trying to create. It didn't work...I found the older junkies to be fascinating to the point I copied their behavior. Not to smart on my account.
More to my point if the Seed was like Daytop because when I was familiar with Daytop late 60's and 70's most of the members were drug addicts and criminals trying to get clean. I don't remember Daytop offering advanced behavioral therapy etc....it was more like one junkie helping another mantra.
Where are you anyway....lets hear from ya.

none-ya:
Group therapy in the seed was a joke. When you're first brought in they pop you down in the front row and tell you not to speak or raise your hand. For the first week you only got to speak in open meetings. As a newcommer we were on 10-10's. !0am-10pm. Sunday 12pm-10pm. And nights with a foster family. It was all "raps" all the time. Everybody in a large group girls on one side, boys on the other. During the day it was repetitive. Rules rap, guy's rap,serenity prayer rap,sing songs etc...
 The staff I remember all came from the original seed in Ft. Lauderdale. John Underwood, Big black Arthur, libby were all hard core junkies. At night when the oldcommers came things got really hairy. That's when people would start snitching on each other about shit that went on in school. I think about half the kids in the seed went to Lakewood high. That's when the really nasty shit would come down. You know the scene, people screaming at complete strangers about shit they know nothing about.
They had their favorites they used. There were no licensed therapists our counselors ever.

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