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If you like posts by hostile people, you'll love this guy!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-10-15 05:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
""I am a parent of one of those kids who needs the help but hasen't been able to mantain sobriety and I think that it is Jackasses like you that are to blame. Because the same bullshit that you spout off they try and tell me on a daily basis. I still love my child but I am definetly not proud of him."
This is one of the most horrible things I've read in my life. Your child does something you disagree with and you loose pride in him? If your child is using drugs hamrful to his body shouldn't you just worry for him but continue to be proud of his strengths of character, morals, intelligence, or everything else that he might be good at? Do you think he feels that? Has your love been conditional? Have you always lost pride in him when he does what you feel is a failure? And you blame the fact that there are potheads out there for his difficulties? "
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Oh c'mon Anon --- GET REAL! There's a LOT of teens out there that make HORRIBLE choices and NO parent would be PROUD! MUCH different from LOVING your child... they don't go HAND in HAND! Guess I'm not surprised at your post though... it's a fairly typical one from the mentality of MOST of the posters on this site.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-10-15 12:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Smarten up why don't youGinger, a grammar error or a mispelled word makes no difference in that anon poster's message---which is right on target--review your own posts if you get such a charge out of careless writing mistakes. Mean-spirited, ungenuine piece of work that you are
You and the moron referred to are drugged out drug culture groupies. That's the point--i might feel sorry for you if the crap you're pushing didn't hurt so many kids."
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I just think it's funny as hell when people demonstrate, as you have done, the very characteristics you project onto others. You assume all sorts of things about me and others; and especially about anyone who uses cannabis.
This makes me wonder if your kid actually had any kind of serious problem to begin with or if you just assumed that he did, or would eventually, when you found out he smoked pot.
That is, after all, how a lot of these kids land up in these places. The Teevee even tells us, nightly, to call a substance abuse referral line if we merely suspect that our own kids might be using unpatented drugs. Thankfully for our kids, most of us who've been through Synanon based programs know better. At least we got something of value from the Program.
He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.
--James Burgh 1774
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Anonymous:
Antigen writes:
" You assume all sorts of things about me and others; and especially about anyone who uses cannabis.
This makes me wonder if your kid actually had any kind of serious problem to begin with or if you just assumed that he did, or would eventually, when you found out he smoked pot. "
And we ALL know that "pot" is used by our most successful citizens. Oh wait... it's usually local thugs, drop outs and criminals that use it, that I hear about. Makes it SO appealing. I think it's sad that people feel they NEED to use this ILLEGAL drug, to make them feel better, or relax, or whatever the excuse may be. (It would explain some of the posts here --- drug-induced. Certainly not CLEAR minded thoughts.)
Yes, folks, smoking pot most always leads to better things in life... NOT.
I certainly don't need nor want for it.
Hamiltonf:
Thugs and no-good layabouts, eh?
How about Pierre Berton as your typical pothead?
AT 84, BERTON REVEALS NOT ALL JOINTS PAINFUL
Teaches Tv Viewers How To Roll Doobie On Cbc Next Week. Celebrated Author Says He First Turned To Pot In His 40s
For decades, Canadians relied on Pierre Berton for the straight dope.
But no one would have guessed from the bow ties, the silver comb-over and the stiff upper lip that the legendary Canadian broadcaster and newsman actually smoked the stuff.
Berton, now 84, told the Toronto Star that he's been a recreational marijuana smoker since the '60s, and will show Canadian audiences how to roll a joint on Monday's season premiere of Rick Mercer's Monday Report.
"I enjoy the odd joint but I never go overboard," said Berton, who conceded that he is actually "terrible" at rolling, and prefers to use a small device to facilitate the process. "I smoke about once a month to help me relax."
Berton, a former editor and columnist at the Star, became a fixture in Canadian media throughout the '60s and '70s as host of the Pierre Berton Show. He's the author of such titles as 1967: The Last Good Year and Farewell to the Twentieth Century.
And while he has no qualms about discussing it, Berton doesn't attribute any of his success in Canadian media to his marijuana use.
"While I'm working I never smoke or drink anything," he said.
Berton appears in a regular segment of Mercer's show called Celebrity Tip, in which high profile Canadians explain how to perform simple household functions.
"First of all, you need a good rolling surface," Berton deadpans in the clip as he guides a young assistant. "Start in the middle, roll outwards, and let your thumbs do most of the work ..."
Once complete, Berton scrutinized the joint and pronounces his approval: "firm but not too firm."
Berton doesn't recall the specifics of his first experimentation with dope, but says it happened when he was in his 40's. Before then, he had no access to the drug.
"When I was in my 20s, the only thing we had was liquor," he said. "I'd never heard of marijuana. But I gave it a couple tries in the '60s and it was all right."
While Berton isn't interested in becoming Canada's next poster boy for the legalization of marijuana, he believes our current laws are dysfunctional and outdated.
"We could save the taxpayers an enormous amount of money by ( legalizing marijuana )," he said. "We've been putting people in jails for planting the stuff for years and it hasn't worked. It's the same as prohibition in the U.S. in the '30s. All it does is create an enormous criminal body."
"If people who are of age want to have a smoke let them have a smoke, I say."
The federal government plans to re-introduce a bill in the near future that would remove the criminal penalty for possession of 30 grams of marijuana, which, depending on how you roll them, amounts to several joints.
Mercer said yesterday that the item filmed Wednesday was "quite a coup" for his show that he was thrilled just to meet Berton, let alone spend a couple of hours in his home, discussing how to avoid "toke burns."
The show's host added he didn't know whether it was real pot ( "on the show you don't see anyone smoking anything" ) and he professed not to remember whether it was provided by the show's staff or the great author.
Berton doesn't expect his joint-rolling tutorial or his pronouncement to cause his reputation to go up in smoke.
"I suppose people will get a kick out of it," he said. "But I've reached the stage in life where I don't give a damn what I say or what people think."
Rick Mercer's Monday Report airs on CBC Monday at 9 pm.
Anonymous:
Warning Signs of Potentially Abusive Facilities
1. The facility is not licensed.
(Well, actually, we know Family & Children's Services licensed AARC in 2000, but you must remember that the Child Welfare system in Alberta was said to be so broken that it cannot be fixed by the Children's Advocate in a report years before.)
2. Verbal and/or written communication between the child and his parents, siblings, grandparents, etc. is prohibited, restricted, or monitored on any level.
3. The facility requires that the parents and/or child sign a form releasing the program of liability in the event of injury to the child.
4. The program requests/demands/recommends that they have legal custody of children.
5. The program requires that children live in foster or "host" homes instead of allowing them to reside with their parents.
6. The child or parent or forbidden from discussing the daily happenings at the facility. Often this policy is called "confidentiality."
7. The child is denied access to a telephone.
8. Phone calls between children and parents are monitored.
9. The program uses confrontational therapy.
10. Parents must fulfill requirements of the facility before being permitted to visit their own children.
11. The facility is located outside the jurisdiction of the United States.
12. Children are restrained or otherwise physically prevented from leaving the facility.
13. The staff includes former students/clients of the facility.
14. Staff members claim that self-injury or cutting/carving on ones body is normal behavior for a child in treatment.
15. Parents are not allowed to remain with their child during the entire intake/entry process.
16. The program inflicts physical punishments on children such as exercising for extended periods of time, bizarre cleaning rituals (ie scrubbing floors with a toothbrush) or food restrictions.
17. The program uses humiliation to "break them down."
18. The program forces children to remain in solitary confinement/isolation/time-out for an unspecified amount of time.
19. Reading materials are prohibited or severely limited.
20. The facility does not have a clearly visible sign outside the building or descriptions of their location are vague.
21. The facility claims to modify behavior, yet has no licensed therapists on staff.
22. A licensed doctor or registered nurse is not present at any time during normal operating hours.
23. Current clients/students participate in the intake/entry process.
24. Staff members offer to help parents obtain a court order forcing the child into, or keeping the child in, the facility.
25. Children are observed while bathing, dressing, or using the toilet on any level of the program.
26. The facility claims to treat drug abuse, but does not conduct a drug screen prior to entry.
27. The facility does not allow children to follow their religion of choice.
28. Staff members must "approve" family members, siblings, friends, or employment.
29. Children are not afforded an education in accordance with state requirements.
30. Medication is recommended, prescribed, approved, or dispensed by anyone other than a medical doctor (MD).
31. Children are denied medications that have been prescribed by an MD.
32. Staff members, admissions personnel, referrers, etc. make statements indicating that "your child will die without" the program.
33. Children escort/supervise other children.
34. Children have to "earn" the "right" to speak during group/therapy sessions.
35. Children are denied outside activities on any level/phase.
36. Staff members must approve the withdrawal of children from the facility.
37. The facility expects total and unquestioned support of parents.
38. Children on any level/phase are forbidden to speak to other children in the facility.
ISAC will add to this list as necessary.
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