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Seed Psychology
GregFL:
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Whether I had learned good things from the Seed - I don't know - I learned how to work hard, I learned how to 'change my attitude' and I learned to be unafraid to commit myself to something. ONe thing for sure...I didn't need the Seed. I needed a strong, healthy family - and that I didn't have. The Seed was a temporary substitute, but it papered over it's own weaknesses and inconsistancies - you couldn't question it.
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BINGO! Well said.
Anonymous:
I'm sorry-The Seed was not perfect but what the heck is? We are all human beings. People have flaws. I saw lives turn around when I was at the Seed that others said there was no hope for. These people believed some where down in there psyche that they couldn't change either. Guess what they did. I'm one of them. You can call it a cult you can call it what you like. I do not know(and sure you can argue it) what would have happened to me if the Seed had not come along when it did. I was ready for the nut house at 18, some of this was my fault(drug usage) some my alcholic father's and nervous breakdown mother's, suicidal aunt(s) ect. I was what I was & I needed help & got it. I loved the help I got & became stronger & taught what I needed to learn to survive & thrive. Sure some people were controlling sure some were thickheaded & a few were even excuse the expression Assholes. Guess what the majority of people cared about me & helped me and even loved me. This is my story & I wanted to tell it.
Antigen:
I think the worst aspect of these types of programs is in the totalist mindset.
Ok, maybe you were in deep trouble and asking for help when you showed up. So you never experienced what I and many, many other kids did. I was not a drug addict. I wasn't mean or thoughtless or irresponsible. I got decent grades, went to band practice, did more than my fair share of chores around the house w/o complaint, worked part time w/ my dad in a neighbor's Hunter ceiling fan store, never forgot to feed my dearly loved dog, etc.
But I was forced to denounce myself and, to a large degree, to believe it. Worse? In order to stay out of trouble and, eventually, to get out, I had to force others to denounce themselves as well.
I don't know if anyone can adequately explain what that's like to someone who hasn't been through it.
To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
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rjfro22:
I agree with you 100% The Seed help set me on the road with tools I still use to this day. I know there are some people on this site that want to see only the bad. If the Seed was such a cult,
What was it's intentions? I believe the Seed's intentions were to help save lives, and with the good and bad I am honored to have been a part of it.
Tony Stark:
Is that so? Well wildcard, GregFL, You thought you were lost until you ran into Fager......Gee I thought I read his portfolio..........Isn't he a freemason? and don't freemason's take care of freeemasons? You learned any high level handshake salutations? Got yourself a mason ring et? I wouldn't be so wise in your own eyes yet clown..........You are just trapped in another cult still, and I don't want to run any group or freemason forum ....clown.Or any group for that matter. I got better things to do with my God-given rights.
There are two kinds of people; those who's lives have been somehow touched by harsh tragedy and those you don't know very well.
-- Ginger Warbis
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