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Anonymous:
I actually like rituals. What I meant was, I don't like it when some religion espouses that you are somehow incomplete, errant, or immoral if you don't get baptised or wed at the altar etc.

Shanlea

Antigen:
Oh, I agree entirely. I guess I read too quickly.

" If you need the external structure of the church to be a decent person, something is wrong with you."

Yeah, too many get it bass akward. They confuse the observation of rituals w/ actual personal merit. So perfectly rotten people are deemed good while wonderful people, why just don't subscribe to the same version of dogma, are deemed apostates.


Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist
--- End quote ---

Jupiter Survivor:
OK Wally, when I win the Lotto (that is if I ever buy a ticket, education lottery....what a joke) you will be the mayor of my new city....lol

The drug war is not being won, people have used various drugs for thousands of years.  There is too much big money, power and politics involved.  As much as I would NOT like to legalize drugs, shit could it be any worse than what we have now?  Prison populations are over flowing from drug convictions (mostly African-Americans) and they are not the big guys, but users. With the "3 strikes you're out" law, many are now lifers.  
There is soooo much wrong with our society, drugs, IMHO is not at the top of the list.  We have let things become what they are mostly inpart because we are a complacent society.  We are trained to be good little consumers. I see little difference between the elephants and donkeys.  They are both sooo far right or left that few of us want anything to do with either.

So Wally, if I actually go and buy the ticket, are you on board....?  A self sustaining green city, teachers make premium salaries, everything located so that there is little need for cars,  and an actual government run by the people and for the people......any other takers?

Jupiter Survivor:
Not that you asked me but I would say yes.  Any group that tells you how to think and will alienate you if you don't conform is. That includes MOST religous group.
What do you think would happen if you were Cathloic and had an abortion, Baptist and believed in Karma, Assembly of God and didn't speak in toungues or Republician and were an enviromentalist?

Stripe:
Going by a strict dictionary definition,  I would have to vote NO.  But I can see how, in these modern times, a present-day cult could be a religion gone bad.  But I don;t think a cult can elevate itself to the status of a religion because religions are based on faith and intution whereas cults are generally based on persons, ideals or things. I know, I know, Scientologists will tell me I'm wrong - but if that's so, why didn't lronhubbard call it Religiontology?

If any person still isn't sure whether The Seed was a cult or a religion, just read the following definitions from a 1966 Ramdom House Dictionary of the English Language - The Unabridged Edition.

cult (kult), n. 1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.  2 . an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal or thing, esp. as manifested by  a body of admirers: a cult of Napolean.  3.  the object of such devotion.  4. a group or sect bound together  by devotion or veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.  5. Sociol. A group  having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.   6. a religion that is  considered or held to be false or unorthodox, or its members.  7. any system for treating human sickness that originated by one claiming to have sole insight in to the nature of disease, and that employs methods generally regarded  as being unorthodox and unscientific. [

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