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« on: September 26, 2004, 02:17:00 PM »
In alaska, scarcity was a joke. We all shared food, made sure we were all nourished with substance. I dare say eight pizza sticks! Eight pizza sticks were taken from the chow line. What is happening here? WHAT IS HAPPENING TO MY SCHOOL? I will not stand for this injustice, I wll not accept that someone would so selfishly take so many sticks. I hope your happy, whoever the culprit is-for being so pain stakingly out of agreement. Well I for one will not tolerate it.
-Former cedu student

Thats a quote from a student during my stay at BCA. I know how picky you guys get with having names mentioned, but I'd like to hear other funny quotes from staff or students.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2004, 07:19:00 PM »
Staff: "Do you know why you get out of agreement?"

Student: "Because I don't like the rules"

Staff: "NO!" "IT'S BECAUSE YOUR A GODDAMN CHICKEN SHIT!"

I heard this line in many a raps, verbatim on the "goddamn chicken shit" part.  I know some of you guys who were at BCA when I were remember this one very cleary (hell we all used to imitate it and laugh for hours).
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2004, 11:24:00 PM »
Staff: "Do you know why you get out of agreement?"

Student: "Uh, because I never 'agreed' to follow your rules. And you're a lying manipulator when you suggest that I did. Get honest, call a rule a rule."
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2004, 10:34:00 AM »
How about this from when I was new:
Staff: Get out of your head!
Me: I don't understand.
Staff: That's because you're too intellectual. YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT. GET OUT OF YOUR FUCKING STUPID HEAD.
Me: Ok. Now I'm getting upset.
Staff: What's that feel like?
Me: It feels like you are going out of your way to scream at me for no reason but to make me upset and furthermore the only way...
Staff: (a cacophany now) FUCK YOU YOU LITTLE SHITHEAD. GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE RAP, I DARE YOU, YOU CHICKENSHIT PIECE OF SHIT. DON'T TALK BACK FUCK YOU, HATE YOU LITTLE SMART PAIN IN THE ASS NO WONDER YOUR PARENTS LEFT YOU HERE. YOU THINK YOU SO SMART I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO LEAVE, YOU SIT AROUND HERE TRYING TO FOLLOW ALL THE AGREEMENTS, I LOOK AT YOU AND I SEE QUITTER, JUNKIE, NIGHTMARE...
me: WHAT LANGUAGE IS THIS? WHO ARE YOU FUCKING POEPLE, JUST LEAVE ME ALONE!

now of course, I had responded with emotion after the screaming. this opened me up to a rather lengthy attack in which I quietly asked for permission to leave the rap and was rebuked with the standing of counselors, I didn't know what was going to happen and I finally bolted. That was fun.
But this happened everytime there was a new boy or girl who had a little flare of resistance. Maybe these were kids who were already versed in the fucking CONSTITUTION.
Man I wish I had a recording of ONE rap. Just One fucking rap. Man that would kick up some shit. BTW, I'm not laughing right now.  
-blownaway
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2004, 11:39:00 AM »
Wow, they said "Get out of your head"? I thought that was a Seed thing. Now I wonder if it goes all the way back to Synanon.

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2004, 11:58:00 AM »
I rememeber hearing staff say that to kids. I remember asking, "Why are you saying that? I thought we all lived in our heads...? Isn't 'being intellectual' an important part of being human?" Russ and Brandi hated that. I would have said, "an integral part..." but I figured that would be too big a word for them.

I swear, it felt like a cult. I was glad I could leave, but sorry the kids had to stay.

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"Wow, they said "Get out of your head"? I thought that was a Seed thing. Now I wonder if it goes all the way back to Synanon.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2004, 12:25:00 PM »
Oh yeah, "get out of your head" was a big  one at CEDU. If I had a dime for every time I heard that... Supposedly, you were supposed to get in touch with your feelings, but those ended up being manufactured anyway because of all the badgering...

That was what CEDU was all about anyway... losing your cognitive abilities and stop thinking for yourself... even your feelings were dictated.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2004, 12:51:00 PM »
I remember that one.  Do you remember "Fuck you for that!"  Paula Rudy used to say that one all the time.  I know they always used to as us "how does that make you feel" in our forums too!  I told some of my friends about the lingo used and they couldnt believe it.  Like "bans", where you couldnt talk to people.  They just didnt understand hoe this could be enforced.. but I know all of you understand!  And if you didn't follow them , then you were "out of agreement".  God I wish I could remember some other stupid lingos used!
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2004, 02:15:00 PM »
"PROJECTING!!"--This was funny as staff often clearly projected their own issues of their own eating disorders/drug abuse/sexual issues onto us.

"Running your thinking"

"Running your feelings"

"What are you doing to your little girl/boy every day?"  I just wanted to say, I'm not a little girl--I'm 16 for God's sakes and I can't re-do my childhood, so talk straight." (The irony is when they say this after the verbally abusive raps.)

Wish I remembered more propheet lingo but I only went thru Truth...
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2004, 04:03:00 PM »
Heres a couple for you:


"We stay in agreement to save are lives."

"When you tell people they are Out of Agreement, you are saving their lives."

"If you don't tell people when they are Out of Agreement, you are helping them die."

"If you help other people to die, then you are out of agreement, and you are killing yourself."


Guy Bonnano wrote all of this on a chalk board and made everyone in my discovery peer group do a writing assignment on why this is true, and then each one of us had to read what we wrote for the group.  I had only been at cedu for a month, I remember thinking that :This was the dumbest shit I've ever Heard!

I wrote that: "Cedu Sucks, Cedu's agreements are stupid, and we shouldn't have to follow them anyways.  Ratting on someone will not save their lives, all it will do is get them in trouble, and that there is nothing lower in this world than being a fucking Rat!"

When I read My paper aloud, everyone in my peer group froze.  I mean dead silence.  Guy Bonnano's
face turned bright red, and then sorta purple, he was so pissed off that he couldn't talk, Guy stormed out of the room.  Nobody said anything. Steve Laird came back into the room like 2 minutes later and told me to go with him.  Steve put me on a table immediately, and told me I was on bans from challenge on down, and that I was not to move from the table, or leave the dining room until my dorm head comes to escort me for lunch and then to raps.

I was put in a rap with Guy Bonnano
Steve Laird, Russ Decker, and about half of my peer group, + older students. They "Ripped Me a New Asshole!" (anyone remember that phrase?).

Guy Bonnano:  "The Reason Why You CHOOSE to be Out Of Agreement is because YOU FEEL SO GODDAMN SMALL ABOUT YOURSELF!!!!"

SOS:  "FUCK YOU!"

Steve Laird:   "Why do you act like an asshole, Do you like being an ASSHOLE?"

SOS:  "Yes.  FUCK YOU!"

GUY BONNANO:   "The reason you like being an Asshole, is because YOU ARE A COWARD AND YOU KNOW THAT NO ONE WILL HIT YOU HERE!  YOU'RE A
 BIG PUSSY!!!"

SOS: "Yeah, Whatever, GO FUCK YOURSELF!"

STEVE LAIRD:
  "You FEEL SO SMALL INSIDE, Your just too SCARED and DISHONEST To Admit The Truth, So You act Like Some MACHO TOUGH GUY, when the truth is that YOUR DICK IS PROBABLY ONLY THIS BIG!!!"(pinches thumb and index finger together)

SOS:   "GO FUCK SIERRA, Steve!"  (sierra was steve's ugly, mangy-ass, dog)

OLDER STUDENT:
  "THIS IS MY SCHOOL, MY HOME! YOU WILL STAY IN AGREEMENT! I'M DRAWING THE LINE! YOU WILL RESPECT MY HOME!"

SOS:   (both middle fingers raised in the air)  
"FUCK YOU! FUCK YOUR SCHOOL AND FUCK YOUR HOME!
I'LL PISS ALL OVER YOUR FUCKING HOME!  LICK MY BALLS IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT!!!"

Whole Rap: "AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!" (The screams were so loud and coming from everywhere that poor SOS never got another word out.) Even my thoughts were drowned in screams.


True story.

I spent 10 days on a table, and almost a month on INDEFINATE work assignments and dishes because of that rap.  It was
well worth it, though. I just loved seeing how bad I could piss those fuckers off!


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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2004, 04:04:00 PM »
Anyone here who can relate to my story?




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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2004, 04:42:00 PM »
Die laughing.

That scenario totally brought back memories
of the oxymoronic arbitrarily developed enforced "agreements".... I can totally picture the rap complete with blowhard staff, petty mudslinging, defense of the illogical, and ass kissing older students. And then the deluge.

I can remember my family heads giving similar speeches to Guy's and thinking first, this isn't an agreement, it's a rule, and second, it blows. But I did not have the courage to say what I thought because my entire purpose at CEDU was dedicated to ducking under the radar on raps.  Congrats on your guts (or masochism) for being so openly defiant.

You were there awhile. How did you get "promoted" with this defiance? It must have been exhausting defending yourself,logic, and common sense on a continual basis.  Did you ever decide it was time to play the game until you made your escape?
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2004, 05:22:00 PM »
Shanlea; Yes, I did "Play the Game" eventually.

I was openly defiant during my entire period in discovery, and Quest.  I learned to "play the game" periodically, but that never lasted for more than a few weeks, before I was in trouble again.  I split 4 times during this period, and I always fought with stafs, older students, and my peer group. I blatantly broke the rules and I didn't care who knew about it.   During my 1st year, I did 4 tables, 2 full times, several couch restrictions & pit restrictions, room restrictions, you name it. The only thing cedu didn't do was send me on a 21 day.  I must have spent at least 3/4 of my 1st year at cedu on work assignments,dishes, and restrictions.

 Once, I was promoted to challenge I got better at playing the game, and I was able to pass myself off as a model older student.  

A lot of older students were splitting around the time that I moved up to challenge, and staff made me a dorm head right away, basically because no one else was available. I played the model older student game long enough until I earned my first home visit (which I split on).  After the cops caught me, i was sent back to Cedu and did a 3rd and final full time.  

After my last full time, I got back into routine "Playing the Game", and staff gave me my dorm back.  Once i had the staff's confidence again, I began planning my next and final escape from cedu.  I planned for 3 months before I split.  The whole time I pretended that I liked cedu, and wanted to graduate. I was promoted to New Horizons.  I waited until 1 week after bryan felscher graduated (he was my best friend at cedu), and then  I split for the 6th and final time, it was on the day I was supposed to do my Values Profeet.  Well, I value my freedom, so  to me it seemed like the perfect day to skip the 24 hour brainwashing and get the fuck out of Cedu for good!  

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2004, 06:29:00 PM »
SOS, after splitting 5 times you must have been their biggest challnege.  They probably got their nuts off thinking they finally "saved" you from your deliciously defiant self only to find out--WRONG AGAIN! Seriously, I'm surprised your folks didn't pull you in a frustrating realization that CEDU was ineffectual.

Also, the idea of you as a dorm head. Were you CEDU-kosher or underground?

Last, when you "played the game" (this is to anybody) did you believe it when you were doing it or did you know full well you were doing what you had to do?
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2004, 08:24:00 PM »
when i was there during the michael allgood mindfuck era   a kid who left and they thought they could not con into returning was  labeled  to have been playing along and not wanting to do the program.  this is the lie that was fed to the other kids.  allgood would say or do anything to get his way.  staff  like rudy benz can tell you about the lies and brainwashing that they would do to keep  a kid there or keep him from leaving.  allgood believes that the ends justified the means and that psycopath mel wasserman who screwed everyone and believed his own lies just like oj simpson saying the bruno magli shoes photo are faked.  danielle used to say that oj would kill nicole and she ended up with cancer said rudy.
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