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Any fond memories, lessons or other positive aspects of The

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GregFL:
Oh, its you rjfro22. I wasn't sure but thought so, but your latest posts are Anon.

There were children in the Seed as young as 8 or 9 for attitude problems. Many many people were there for "druggie attitudes" and for minor offenses, even skipping school and talking back to their parents.This is documented. Judges even were sentencing kids to the seed in st pete for shoplifting (the judges kids had kids in the program).

I also in length explained to you why I didn't "take off". It was not an option for many. I have also for several years of posts explained what happened to me there, how I had to choose freedom over family, how my famly was left shattered, how my childhood was stolen, how I was embarrassed, hurt, angry, confused, how my ego was destroyed, how I felt in school being the member of a non voluntary cult and how I felt worthless and not part of normal society for a long time.


I am also "30 years later still there" for the benefit of people like you that want a place to discuss what happened in the seed. Before the SDF existed it was just the dirty little secret of many people and few understood like others that were there.  This site is my pleasure to moderate. I don't do this because I chose to relive my hurfull childhood over and over. In fact, I have no emotion whatsoever discussing this. I view this forum as an avenue of public service, something I am qualified to give back to other people who went thru a unique shared event in their life. No thanks necessary rjfro and no charge to join the discussion and no attacks allowed to protect all points of view.

No, rjfro, I am not trying to force anything on anybody and certainly not my ideas. . How many times must I say that?

You seem to want to often bring this discussion off of the Seed and back around onto me for some reason. That is usually the tactic of someone with weak arguments. You may notice few other people do that here. Do you have an axe to grind with me? Do my opinions offend you?  If so, try to get over it and give us the benefit of your knowledge and point of view instead of changing the subject to me.  That confrontational method of communication learned in the Seed really is anti-social outside of exclusive groups.

Filobeddoe:

--- Quote ---On 2004-09-26 09:00:00, rjfro22 wrote:

"I know singing those sappy songs were ridiculous, I basically just moved my mouth.

It certainly was a way to break the big ego.

The road to recovery...."

--- End quote ---


Right! I can't think of a better way to break down the big ego of a "tough kid" than making him sing Zippety Do-da or Do the Hokey Pokey or playing Simon Says or cutting off a couple years worth of long hair.

You are also correct that many of us were on the road to recovery during & after The Seed... not from drug addiction (which you didn't say) but from a self-destructive way of life largely centered around doing "non-addictive" drugs.

For most of us in The Seed... we needed a "jolt" or an abrupt about face to get off the wrong track and onto the right one.

Unfortunately, there were alot of negatives mixed in with the good & for alot of people in the program, the negatives outweighed the good.

= = = Getting back to original post.... would be interesting for me & others to hear of any fond memories or lessons learned others have had = = =

GregFL:
I will say this, drug use was always a very destructive thing for me personally. I do know people that can smoke pot all the time with apparently little consequences.  For me it always spirals me into a self critical paranoid non fun time and I choose not to do it. Other drugs are way out of the question for me now.

prior to the seed, it didn't do this. Maybe the brainwashin did work in a way. On the other hand, I did far more drugs in a much more dangerous way after the seed as did most of my friends.

Aw fuckit, I just can't come up with anything positive...I give up and totally bail out of this thread.

Tony Stark:
Taught me right from wrong when everybody and everything I was into was not right. I could have wound up like a lot of dead ,jailed, institutionalized people. I remember what question Nick asked me when he stood me up and rebuked me....." Do you know how many people want your chair right now?"   :smokin:  
"I predict, Sir, that you will die either by hanging or of some vile disease."
 "That all depends, sir, upon whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."
--Disraeli to Gladstone
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Tony Stark:
And you mr. clown asshole moderator can GO TO HELL
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.
Tacitus, Roman senator and historian (A.D. c.56- c.115)
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