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« Reply #60 on: October 24, 2004, 12:17:00 PM »
What happens to all of the billions they get from drug raids and seizures? Shouldn't this money be applied to fund better treatment?
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« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2004, 12:28:00 PM »
Who gets billions from drug raids? We SPEND billions on the war on drugs. The only ones who profit are the folks to make and sell them. For the U.S. as a nation, it's a giant money vacume.
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« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2004, 06:12:00 PM »
I think this could be a very informative sight if people didn't take away from it by hurling insults at people they don't know.  I have learned a lot about where I work and the history behind it from this site. If I knew nothing of CEDU and came to this website, I would find out very quickly why these young adults get sent to CEDU by their parents.  Now I'm very new here, but I believe people discredit this websites goal when they overgeneralize and make assumptions about ALL people associated with the program.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe this is the only CEDU forum independent of the CEDU system as a whole.  You are not going to attract much support from the other side of the fence if you can't respect them.  I would really like to be a frequent poster, but it gets annoying to sift through the juvenile horsefucker comments, and the threats on my life.  You are doing yourselves a disservice by isolating your conversations to only those who agree with everything you say.  I agree with a lot of this sites points, but all of the bullshit insults make me agree with CEDU more than it makes me not.
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« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2004, 07:33:00 PM »
Do you think it's possible to have a therepuetic environment, and at the same time teach respect for authority?  This is the question I ask myself a lot.  Many kids at CEDU don't have serious emotional problems, they just have absolutely no respect for the authority of their parents so their parents automatically think they are crazy because they won't listen to them or do what is asked of them.  A kid at CEDU is their for not cleaning his room.  Another was raised by a disabled mother and has no respect for authority, but is very emotionally stable.  Then there is very emotionally unstable kids who cling to every word that staff says.  If someone is emotionally unstable and disrespectful, it seems they end up in lock down or wilderness. I am not that experienced in this field, but I would like to ask you, Manchester, or anyone.  Is there a balance?  Is it possible to teach both?  Is this the problem inherent in the CEDU system?  Some students don't ever listen to staff and end up on consistent work assignments or dishes given to them by the variety of staff they disrespect. After a while, it becomes normal to them and they don't care even more than they didn't before. One student had 72 nights of DRC.  Would it be better if we did not have this power?  I, myself, don't use it as much as most.  When I first started working, I didn't use it at all.  It was only when people started to disrespect me and literally treat me like shit, that I began to give consequences.  I don't think that they treated me like shit because I was an asshole though.  It was just the fact that I was "staff".  A part of the system.  Is there a difference between punishment and consequences?  I don't think so.  CEDU does.  
     At CEDU I am both friend and enemy.  I am doctor and executioner.  I don't think it's possible to fill all of these roles.  Everybody does there own thing.  Some staff are relaxed, some are stern.  Some hand out work assignments for minor infractions  and others get nothing for doing the same thing.  No amount of training sessions can change this.  The inconsistency is inherent in the system and the system is that if staff says it, it's right.  They learn what they can get away with from whom, so if they are rebellious most of their time is spent trying to do that.  I can think of at least 10 kids that just need old fashioned discipline.  An idea instilled in them that life isn't always going to go their way.  We have every kind of kid at CEDU.  We have normal teenagers who experimented too heavily with drugs. We have rapists avoiding jail and girls that have been raped.  We have selfish spoiled brats who have gotten their way their entire life.  We have firestarters.  We have seriously suicidal teens too. We have anti social computer junkies.  We have kids from foreign countries.  We have kids whose parents are there for them and kids whose parents are not.  We have a cornocopia of problems and one system that is convinced it can solve them all. That is the real problem of CEDU.
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« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2004, 09:47:00 PM »
Let me guess, you are the noble guy who can fix the problem from the inside.  

You dumb fucking idiot.  You ARE part of the PROBLEM moron!

Fuck OFF!
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« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2004, 09:55:00 PM »
Go easy Bryan.  You may not agree but I'll bet he cares.
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« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2004, 10:16:00 PM »
Yeah Bryan pollyanna here says he cares---question is why he would care if some fucking insane-retard-loser-drug addict fool like you wants him here or not
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« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2004, 10:36:00 PM »
hey dude (anon), that's fucked up to attack Bryan like that.
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« Reply #68 on: October 28, 2004, 10:55:00 PM »
First Anon, get some pseudo cojones and at least have a handle so we can direct our responses to you.

Second, I'm not sure I'd characterize Bryan as a Pollyanna but that is certainly a unique perspective.

Third, I believe you are at the wrong site. I'm sure there are sites for what you call "fucking-insane-retard-loser drug addict fools like you" but this is not it.  (Although I'm sure that some of us have fallen into one or two of these categories at some point in our lives: I was a loser in a spelling bee once and a fool for love but hey, I got over it.) This site is for people who want to discuss CEDU and give parents and others a different perspective than the BS PR their propaganda machines spew.

Have a nice night.
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« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2004, 12:37:00 PM »
well said Shanlea, well said. :smile:
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« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2004, 05:20:00 PM »
Get a clue Shanlea, you're the one with the Pollyanna act--- not that psychopath stood up for in you dim post---btw you're even more irritating that a lot of the pond scum here--you hit me as someone in high schol who hung around the worst boys---to cool & near the risk ( you were too timid yourself)

Talk about "cojones"!!!  I bet the only way you  had any was rapping you lips around some bad boy's scrotum as  a baby-skank---here you are---years later--- standing up for the lowest site scum and saying you personally don'tuse, oh, yoy're so balanced--- you're just good and pure, so above-it-all--your puck making little post--"Go easy Bryan, you may not agree but I bet he cares!"

And still latched on to low lifes---I guess some things never change.

Why do I own some disgusting hanger-on slut a name--Anon is good enough for you bitch!!!
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« Reply #71 on: October 29, 2004, 05:20:00 PM »
Get a clue Shanlea, you're the one with the Pollyanna act--- not that psychopath stood up for in you dim post---btw you're even more irritating that a lot of the pond scum here--you hit me as someone in high schol who hung around the worst boys---to cool & near the risk ( you were too timid yourself)

Talk about "cojones"!!!  I bet the only way you  had any was rapping you lips around some bad boy's scrotum as  a baby-skank---here you are---years later--- standing up for the lowest site scum and saying you personally don'tuse, oh, yoy're so balanced--- you're just good and pure, so above-it-all--your puck making little post--"Go easy Bryan, you may not agree but I bet he cares!"

And still latched on to low lifes---I guess some things never change.

Why do I own some disgusting hanger-on slut a name--Anon is good enough for you bitch!!!
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« Reply #72 on: October 29, 2004, 05:30:00 PM »
if you had the slightest clue what you were talking about, I would be hurt. i don't even have to defend myself you are so way off, but your choice of insults for someone you know nothing about says a lot about you.
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« Reply #73 on: October 29, 2004, 05:32:00 PM »
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« Reply #74 on: October 30, 2004, 12:37:00 PM »
hey anon, we don't need your shit at this site.  we are here to help people and right now, you're not doing a very good job of that with all your dissing on other people.  i would really like to know why you think what you said to shanlea and bryan is important to helping people.  if all you want to do is shit on people, then make you own site and keep your dramma there, don't bring us down.  and on behalf of myself, and i think i'm speaking for a few other people on this site, get out of our site, you bring nothing but dramma.  so please get out!  you don't belong if this is how you're going to be treating people.   [ This Message was edited by: **PIXIE DUST** on 2004-10-30 09:43 ]
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