Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones
Current CEDU Staff
**PIXIE DUST**:
blownaway, that was a very good post, and i agree with a lot of the things you said.
blownawaytheidahoway:
Pixie dust, I have an array of different sabres, rapiers, and broadswords. But perhaps you would prefer a bola or sling. Even a slingshot is accurate and intimidating like you would imagine having a heavy rubberband taute and ready and aimed in someones general direction. You would wince too.
Man, I woke up is such a good mood, thanks for your encouraging reply.
-blownaway
mikehunt:
well, when i think of "wicked", i think of evil, malicious intentions. i suppose whether or not i'd call blind followers wicked depends on how you're defining the term...
honestly, i feel sorry for those people; i'd say that their inability to construct their own belief system rather than adopt another's reflects their fear and ignorance moreso than anything else... it takes a great deal of bravery and self-love to be able to live your own life. i don't think it's fair to say that all the ignorant people who follow in fear are wicked; you can't blame someone for being ignorant, however, you can blame them once they have the knowledge amd reject it.
i'll save the term "wicked" for those who know the difference between right and wrong, but intentionally make the "wrong" decisions in order to fuck other people over.
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laura solomon[ This Message was edited by: mikehunt on 2004-10-09 16:35 ]
Anonymous:
Just trying:
Wow, you earn just $11.30 an hour. How can you live on that? You mentioned in your posts that you have a degree. I cannot believe that you are happy earning so little. You also mentioned that you came to this site as a referral from a current student. Thank you, I am thrilled to learn that current students are viewing this site. I hope that there are a few students who read this site, and know that they are not alone, and that they will survive.
Just trying, you've asked if there are any students who have benefited from the program. Unfortunately, I cannot think of any that have. Just trying, you mentioned that you've seen instances of "improvement? in students. Are you sure that you are seeing improvement? Or are you seeing a child learning how to play the CEDU game? Are you seeing a child learning how to close off the world in order to survive the program? The flavor of cedu program that I am familiar with serves only to quarantine ones soul, and replace it with a hallow mantra of binary boundaries that only facilitate failure upon exiting the program.
Just trying, do yourself a favor. Please get a better job. A job where you can earn a living wage. A job, where you can help children in need. Heck, DSS, pays better than 11.30 an hour. If you are hell bent on destroying your self by staying a bad job, then at least get some balls. Communicate the truth of what happens in the program to the student's parents. In raps, when you see a child being pushed too far, take a stand for that child in the rap [not a staff meeting]. Good Luck, but from the tone of your posts it sounds like you've already bought into the program. I hope I am wrong. It pains me to think that another being has bought into a program that propagates disassociation rather than real healing.
Ottawa 5:
You will ALL burn in HELL for challenging Just Trying! Just Trying has been PURGED of his own thoughts! Just Trying deserves EVERY PENNY of the $11.30/hour that he "earns." He is standing up for the BEST brainwashing, emotional paralyzing program in the WORLD! How DARE you challenge him! He and I are sitting and drinking moose cocktail together right now, and you DARE to challenge him? YOU will ALL burn in HELL!!!!!
--- Quote ---On 2004-09-30 13:32:00, Just Trying wrote:
"I was wondering if any of you ever saw a student who actually benefited from the program. I see many at my school. I notice positive change in many people in just the short time I've been there. I believe that the three agreements are a good fundamental basis for life in general. I know there are many who would advance themselves more in the outside world, not so closed off from society. I also know many who would get chewed up and spit out in the real world. You can't expect to succeed in life addicted to drugs. You can't expect to get respect from people engaging in promiscuous sex. You also can't beat people up every time someone pisses you off and expect to not get consequences for that action. Someone with one of these problems or a combination thereof will have a very hard time in the "real world". In that sense, we do help people succeed in the "real world". I can admit that some kids are misplaced at CEDU. Can anyone admit that some kids are actually helped at CEDU? "
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