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CEDU IS A CULT:
[ This Message was edited by: CEDU IS A CULT on 2006-02-03 12:36 ][ This Message was edited by: CEDU IS A CULT on 2006-02-03 12:39 ]
mikehunt:
first off, you can't expect someone to change just because you're throwing them in a "therapeutic" environment. change is made only when s/he who is applying the change decides that such a change is in their own best interest (or what they feel is their best interest)... people who send themselvs to cedu in attempt to change their lifestyles are typically more "successful" than those who were dragged from their beds in the middle of the night because their parents were sick of dealing with their shit, or perhaps "feared of their life".
thus, many students like myself build walls in order to cope with this stressful immersion. whereas stress is a good motivator for many, it is not effective for all; therapy should be personalized to accomodate the needs of the individual by having their patterns and strategies analyzed so they could be worked with, rather than changed in order to accomodate a standard method of treatment.
as i was saying, a person will not change until they find it necessary to do so, and if cedu really thought it was important for a particular individual to change in a specific way, they would personalize their method and make it happen (there is always AT LEAST one way to get the results you want.)
on a different note, what the fuck is it with you people and your degree fetish? firstly, you don't need a degree to be successful, and more importantly, having a degree (after having aqcuired a "proper acedemic training") doesn't make you a well-rounded, qualified person when it comes down to dealing with people in an arena where it's very easy to reap havoc on someone elses brain by something as simple as an improper vocal inflection... creativity and compassion are essential; they can't teach you how to be either of those in skool.
i will never prefer someone bland with a degree to someone without whose morals and creativity i respect immensely.
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laura solomon[ This Message was edited by: mikehunt on 2004-09-20 15:12 ]
**PIXIE DUST**:
mikehunt - i would have to agree with you, therapy does need to be personalized. you can't just pick one treatment for everyone. it doesn't work that way.
Just Trying:
I am so glad people have made some worthwhile comments. Thank You. I like the analogy of the baby and the fly ball, but I don't quite see the connection, maybe I would if I was ever a student. I know having a degree doesn't mean you are smarter than anybody, I was just commenting on a statement that CEDU workers are all uneducated. For the crack problem, I would blame the system that profits from it, not the victims. Bryan, I think you are far too quick to violence and you need to calm down. Mike, I definitely agree with you that being forced into an institution is not a good way to start emotional growth. Minors have absolutely NO rights and it sucks. I think its the major social problem of our era. Those kids up there are amazing. They are good kids and they want to change the world for the better. Many of them are ready to leave, but can't and it is sad to see. What I would really like to know from Mike and any other former CEDU student is what I could bring to the school to make it either less painful or please forgive me, even happy? CEDU intrigues me. In many ways it is a social experiment, but I do not consider you our "guinea pigs". I believe all institutions could learn alot from CEDU. However, I don't think all CEDU students deserved to be institutionalized. It's an unfair contradiction. Some CEDU Students get help they don't need and many more people who need the help in the outside world don't get it. Prisons don't teach emotional growth properly and neither do mental health institutions. If they did, we would probably need less of them. That's just my opinion.
Just Trying:
I apologize for not replying quicker. I have no home computer and I can only use one Tues-Thurs.
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