I went through the program with Mark and Cheryl for two years, I have had experience with them, yes they were ripped off by that guy, but as far as a personal basis they DO NOT follow through on what they say they will. That is one thing they have always told me to do but the one thing I have yet to see them do. They still owe my parents twelve hundred dollars of which my parents haven't seen a cent. Nor have I seen my belongings that were left up at the lodge in Canada when I had left the program, it has been two years of them saying they will go up there in a month, next month we will go we promise, over and over, they have not returned my phone calls, until pushed. Now I do believe they were the victim of that guy but you have to have lived with them for two years to get the real truth!