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psy:
Defamation 101 (not legal advice)

Defamation cannot be "illegal" as it is a civil and not criminal matter in the US.  Defamation comes in two forms, slander (which is spoken) and libel (which is written).  In court it really doesn't matter and both are generally referred to as defamation.  In order for a defamation claim to succeed it must be a statement of fact (rather than a statment of opinion) that is untrue and it must actually cause demonstratable harm with admissable evidence.  The onus is on the plaintiff to prove the statement was false.  In this case, it's based off something you said...  and it's rather hard to prove you did not say something, especially when so many others claim you did.

Actual damages are determined by the harm directly caused.  Punitive damages are determined on whether a person knew that the statement was false at the time it was uttered (called actual malice).  If there was no actual malice, and the false statement was a mistake, there can be no punitive damages.  Special conditions apply to public figures.  If you have spoken out about a matter of public concern relating to these schools, that might make you a limited purpose public figure.  If that's the case, you have to prove actual malice in addition to proving a statement false in order to even win the case.  This is very, very, difficult as you would have to prove each and every statement made against you was made with at the very least a doubt into it's truth.  If you cannot prove that doubt with admissible evidence, you lose.

In the US, winning a defamation case is VERY difficult, and should you decide to sue any member of this forum, I can recommend a few California attorneys who do not like programs at all, know of CEDU and would likely be willing to take this case on a pro-bono basis (or at the very least a contingent fee basis).  Keep in mind that these guys are mean motherfuckers and if you lose, you will likely be held responsible for *all* legal fees and court costs incurred (thanks to California's anti-SLAPP legislation...).  They will bleed you dry and laugh with their clients about it.  You'll be in debt for the rest of your life, and don't expect any mercy.  These particular lawyers have gone up against programs with top-dollar lawyers and have won hands down.  If you feel like taking a risk that will likely blow up in your face is appropriate... have at it.  Unless you can prove with admissible evidence that you, for example, did not say that you immolated a homeless man, you're SOL.

Considering that multiple people have reported witnessing first hand your story of burning a homeless man, i'd recommend shutting the fuck up before a hypothetical defamation case turns into a murder investigation (murder has no statue of limitations).  If you indeed did commit such a crime, the last thing you'd want is to make public record out of other people's testimony into the matter.  If you sue people for defamation, they'll respond in kind with declarations from CEDU students who allegedly witnessed what you said.  That's not something you want.

<-- not legal advice.

Anonymous:
WE KNOW ALL THESE BLOGS ARE YOU GIA, ALL OF THEM.  THESE SLANDEROUS ACCUSATIONS ARE ILLEGAL. SLANDER IS AN UNTRUTHFUL ORAL OR WRITTEN STATEMENT ABOUT A PERSON THAT HARMS THE PERSON'S REPUTATION OR STANDING IN THE COMMUNITY.  WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU FOR YOUR UNTRUE CLAIMS.  EVERYONE YOU HAVE SLANDERED HERE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU.  THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE YOU ARE SLANDERING ON A DAILY BASIS.

WE EXPECT YOU TO IMMEDIATELY CEASE SLANDERING.

Son Of Serbia:
Why did Russ batter his 16 year old step-son in the shower?  
Is it because Russ isn't man enough to confront the boy face to
face?  Is this why Russ made sure to attack step-son unaware
in the shower, at his most vulnerable?

wild thing:
Well, you can read the Russ+ sibling's version on one of these threads.  You are, however, correct, his attack was an act typical of a bully.  One correction, his stepson had not yet entered the shower.  Apparently Russ "thought" that his stepson had stolen a gun from Russ' house.  So, on Christmas morning he decided to storm into his mother-in-law's house with a billy club and have an "intervention" with his stepson.  Now, his stepson was never charged with a theft, nor was there enough information to warrant an investigation.  However, the District Attorney had enough information tfrom the police report to charge Russ.  His in-laws were NOT the ones who pressed charges.
I am sure this will light up the Russ sibling contingent for another assaultive blast on this site.  Can bullying be a genetic trait?

Anonymous:
I don't hate any of them.  I thought I did but by hating someone you are handing them the control.  Whatever happened, it was weird. Ask yourself where you are now and how it differs from when you were there.  .

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