Vth phase and up~Opinions wanted

[Triumvirate]

QUOTE /  Hopefully after last week's report, you'll want to know more in-depth things about our subliminals. What do they do and mean to us? Subliminals mean the differences between a good or bad day. They run the course of thousands of counterparts to thousands of negative thoughts. It's so important to want to have good thoughts and be single minded. Meaning we do not want to think one way and act another because if we do- we cannot be emotionally honest. /QUOTE

Sounds like they are falling into Mansons thrall.

[Kiwi]

On 2004-04-29 13:31:00, Antigen wrote:

"What bothers me about these writings is that they seem to come from other (presumably troubled) teens receiving treatment at the same facility and, rather than being kept in confidence, they are published on the internet for all the world to see."

Most of the students have a "Private Site" which is, supposedly, password-protected but if you back out of the login screen it takes you straight in!

[Triumvirate]

Its so important to have good thoughts and be single minded???!!!!

If I had a teen child I would want them anything but single minded.
I would also want them to know that to feel unhappy, angry, depressed, and lonely ARE NORMAL EMOTIONS.
Its ok to feel this way, etc etc...

I honestly do not think I would have found myself walking this road Im walking...had I not been fed so much pseudo experimental psycho bullshit. It did nothing but alienate me and confuse me.

I want to be the poster boy for why step cults are bad. Yes, I know Im responsible for my actions. But I also know why I did heroin..I know exactly why..It wasnt just to get high, I was already doing that.. :cry2:

Those reasons I wont get into due to the fact that  its personal...but I didnt just happen to become an Opiate addict..and I didnt just gateway into it. :roll:


The point is Im ucking mad as a hatter..and have ingherited mental problems, step cults, and Straight to thank for that.
Large doses of opiates were the only thing to make my mind shut the fuck up for a couple of hours.

 Im tak9ing the next step now...I have been clean roughly two years this time..I feel the Methadone has served its purpose, its gotten me out of the routine and away from the dope..

 Im ready to start my taper. Due to an unfortunate legal bind, I am forced to put my move off for an extra 2 or 3 months..thats just enough time to do a taper..well thats pushing it..

 I just wish I had someone to help me thru it.
The worst part other than the physical pain is the emotional wretchedness you get. Like 2 years of bad feelings hit you at once...I cant explain it. Anyone thats been thru an opiate detox knows what Im referring to..and its a part of the brain going into overdrive..Street people call it "The crazies"
 But alas I will have to do it alone...

[Antigen]

On 2004-04-29 14:23:00, Kiwi wrote:


Most of the students have a "Private Site" which is, supposedly, password-protected but if you back out of the login screen it takes you straight in!"

I know. I wrote to the webmaster about that. Haven't heard back. Looks to me asif most of the website work is done by young ppl using a piss poor authentication scheme. So I can easily forgive that as a technical oversight. And the one page I saw when I found the bug was nothing particularly sensitive, I don't think. But it's potentially a serious problem if these kids (and anyone else who has access to place info there) think it's protected when it's not.

I'm not too sure I like the way these ppl treat their charges. In my opinion, all the students represented on the website are on the higher phases. Nothing I could find looked like it came from the location in Mexico. I suspect this might be an abusive school, but I don't know that to be the case.

Regardless, whenever you find something left open or an exploitable weakness on the net, the decent thing to do is to let the sysadmin know. It's just the same as if you see someone walk away from their car leaving their keys hanging from the trunk.

Instead of giving money to fund colleges to promote learning, why don't they pass a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting anybody from learning anything? If it works as good as the Prohibition one did, why, in five years we would have the smartest race of people on earth.
--Will Rogers

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Seed sibling `71 - `80
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
   10/80 - 10/82
Anonymity Anonymous
It is wrong to leave a stumbling block in the road once it has tripped you.

[Anonymous]

Quote from http://www.bridgetounderstanding.com/cg ... ?read=1397:

In a message on this board from Feb 2001, it was noted that the owners of Chilanko Lodge in BC Canada operating a teen crisis center,were charged with 29 counts of animal cruelty for leaving their 20+ horses and 8 dogs out all winter without adequate food or water. One horse had to be destroyed and health care amounted to $120,000 to restore the health of the other animals. Mark Sudweeks was convicted of 2 counts and fined a $4,000 fine and may not ever own animals in BC again. Cheryl Sudweeks' charges were dropped.

That is in Canada anyhow. Apparently he is still operating a teen center in Utah and Mexico and Chilanko is still listed as a center. Not sure if this place is open or not, but it certainly appears to be.

Their website; http: //www.whoamidiscovery.com/index.htm

CBC report, please view the real player video
http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cg ... buse010227

SPCA press release:

http://www.spca.bc.ca/media/HorseCaseCo ... _Press.htm

[Anonymous]

http://www.isaccorp.com/wwasp/documents/wwasplist.pdf

search for mark sudweeks, he co-owned New Hope Academy

[Scott D]

This whole thing is freaking me out!!!!

[Antigen]

What is?

The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.
-- John Muir

[Triumvirate]

The fact that they are allowed to take care of teenagers but they cant even feed their dogs and bring them in during WINTER UP NORTH!!!

[Triumvirate]

Here you go...taken from their web site..
"placement for the most oppositional kids"

http://64.71.146.119/articles/topics/ca ... grams.html

They promote Elan, Tranquility bay, and some others..yah this place is evil..

Time to put the screws to them







 You WILL Obey !

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One day, the strain
I've never felt like this before
Our lives capsized, one man will give back
Be calm my love Why don't you kneel for me?
I write for sight One day you'll find me
in the corner,more sublime,
But I still never died[ This Message was edited by: Triumvirate on 2004-05-03 04:23 ]

[Triumvirate]

Paradise Cove
Vailaasia Beach, Aufaga,
Western Samoa
(800-637-0701)
High security program for boys in Western Samoa. This does an excellent job of turning really tough kids positive.  :roll:

Someone needs to start a program for slack ass parents..

"Parents warehouse you in an abusive program? Dont get help, get even. For a reasonable fee (which can often be covered by selling your parents valuables) we will come to your house, acost Mom and Dad and beat them within an inch of their life."

Parent-Busters





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One day, the strain
I've never felt like this before
Our lives capsized, one man will give back
Be calm my love Why don't you kneel for me?
I write for sight One day you'll find me
in the corner,more sublime,
But I still never died[ This Message was edited by: Triumvirate on 2004-05-03 04:32 ]

[PerfectStraightling]

On 2004-05-03 04:22:00, Triumvirate wrote:

"Here you go...taken from their web site..

"placement for the most oppositional kids"



http://64.71.146.119/articles/topics/ca ... grams.html

Well, I dont think that is the owner's webpage, just a website that seems to endorse those sorts of facilities. What is intersting is that the owner of who am i discovery, mark sudweeks, was also a co-owner of a wwasp facility. He probably runs his treatment centers in a similar way I am guessing?? Plus he abuses his horses. Not really good signs for this place.

[sk8kid511]

Hey i have some stories about this place to swap. I want to know more about what you posted, talk to me on aim and i would like to know your name. my screen name is halolegend33569.

"...In general, it's just an overall sign in America that there doesn't seem to be as much respect for authority figures, and that's a bad trend. It just strikes me that people can say whatever they want to and get away with it, and that's not good."

--But David Murrell, exec. dir. of the Florida Police Benevolent Association