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Differences Between Straight and The Seed
marcwordsmith:
well, I missed the original posts about the rap from hell, but I do appreciate your general explanation, Greg, and it's enough for me.
It's odd to think the Seed was wracked by melodrama right up into its final days. In a way, I sorta imagined they all (that is, anyone who was still around by the year 2000 or so . . . jeez, imagine that!) might have mellowed out a little. Like there was that one poster here who'd been to The Seed in the nineties and who started a thread entitled something like "I don't get it" and she testified that The Seed had been caring and kind to her.
From what I've read here, it seems the Seed had a kind of U-shaped evolution, from sweet innocuous hippie cult, quickly devolving to cruel coercive thought reform program (perhaps peaking in St. Pete in that regard) and then slowly inching back to gentler ways. But the massive delusions of grandeur persisted all the way through, I suppose.
Goofy, yes, but gross and disgusting, because we had no choice in the matter. We were forced to act the adoring audience for the pontifications of Art and senior staff. The irony is that they needed to be adored and worshipped--and they insisted WE needed THEM.
GregFL:
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From what I've read here, it seems the Seed had a kind of U-shaped evolution, from sweet innocuous hippie cult, quickly devolving to cruel coercive thought reform program (perhaps peaking in St. Pete in that regard) and then slowly inching back to gentler ways. But the massive delusions of grandeur persisted all the way through, I suppose.
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I think so. Remember the Straight was modeled after the early St Pete Seed. All of the original Straight staffers were early St Pete seed oldcomers.
This was my frame of reference that I held for the seed until this forum. I never imagined that one day oldcomers would be out playing tennis with their newcomers in the afternoon, Or that raps would end in the afternoon and everyone would go home, or stuff like this. That was out of the realm of possiblity in my perception of the place.
starry-eyed pirate:
--- Quote from: ""Eudora"" --- ...A multitude of laws in a country is like a great number of physicians, a sign of weakness and malady.
--Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778)
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This is a fantastic quote. Right the fuck on!!!
starry-eyed pirate:
Man, I just want to thank ya'll for having this discussion in a place and a way that I can understand, especially Greg FL and Eudora, who have obviously spent a lot of quiet time thinkin' on all this. It's just so nice to be able to gain more understanding of the past and know that other people are troubled by the same things that trouble me. Before I found this site, I despaired of ever finding anyone that I could, dare I say, "relate" to. I salute your noble search for understanding and thankyou for shining your light to help me see.
-starry-eyed pirate, $tr8 survivor and Drug War P.O.W. 85-87
Anonymous:
::cheers::
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