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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2006, 10:37:00 AM »
I heard that Lybbi trains dogs for FEMA and she trains puppies for canine Companions for Independence.
What do you mean by "warping minds"?
When did the Seed in Fort lauderdale close?
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2006, 10:46:00 AM »
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On 2006-07-03 06:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Your insane Ginger there was no milkshake conection or hogi shop.  Where do you get your info? In your make believe world?  Seriously you come up with the hoakiest bullshit sometimes..."


How do you know, and what about that comment is "insane".

Why are you so angry?
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2006, 12:21:00 PM »
That's not the Ginger you think.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2006, 12:22:00 PM »
Read on and you will see.
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2006, 01:38:00 PM »
greyhounds? Where do you get your info.  I think you just make up shit along the way.  That other artical about Staphanis had nothing to do about anything.  You scare me how dangerous your potiential for making up shit is.
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2006, 02:09:00 PM »
Actually Jack told me that. It was a highschool hang out of his. He took me there for lunch one time. Maybe you just don't know much that's true about Lybbi's family?

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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2006, 03:33:00 PM »
Hey Eudora, what was "the rap from hell"?

Hey Greg, did Seed staff have a big clusterfuck or something? It makes me sad to think that they actually had fun while lording it over the rest of us.

Here's my capsule assessment of the differences between Seed and Straight, Seed and WWASP, and Seed and most of the current spin-offs: The Seed sought to break kids' spirits. Straight and the spin-offs have sought to break kids' spirits and also psychologically scar them for life. Hands down, I would "prefer" the Seed, and you know how much I think the Seed stank. Still, as you pointed out, Greg, there was an endearingly goofy quality to the Seed amidst all the posturing and meanness. That goofiness was a mitigating factor; it made it less harsh. LOVE YOU!
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2006, 05:04:00 PM »
Why do you write that Lybbi "warped minds"?
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2006, 07:32:00 AM »
Eudora you don't know what you are talking about her dad was a stockbroker.  "Little minds think crazy stuff"

You do know there is no tooth fairy ? Right?
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2006, 01:26:00 AM »
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Still, as you pointed out, Greg, there was an endearingly goofy quality to the Seed amidst all the posturing and meanness. That goofiness was a mitigating factor; it made it less harsh. LOVE YOU!


I agree with this assessment. :wink: Seriously. Given the choice, if it were  real choice, hands down, Art and Lybbi and Shelly and the whole goofy gang were benign compared to the likes of Virgil. Trouble is that, unintentional as it was, they set up a set of circumstances that is just ripe for exactly this type of abuse. No getting around it. Look at each branch individually. Same things keep happening.

You know....if the Seed was in Utah, who knows how many "wives" the old bastard would have.
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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2006, 09:56:00 AM »
..... if i may intrude.

we all suffered so the point is....

what we r gonna do about it ?

no one will ever stop sembler until he's "DEAD"
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2006, 07:41:00 PM »
I think you got it Marc.Even tho the Straight was a copy of the seed, it was a copy of the St Pete seed, readily admitted by senior staff (read; John U) as having a meaner edge than Ft Lauderdale. The replacement was sans Art and These people took Art's fantasy of a seed utopia and flushed it down the toilet, replacing it with a harder edged, more corporate version of the same dogma.


Libbi does train dogs now.  That is easily researchable on the net.  The rest of the story about her parents being millionaires, and of course the 1000 a day junkie habit...I just don't know.
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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2006, 07:43:00 PM »
"The rap from Hell" or whatever you want to call it, was the break up of the inner circle.  It has been posted about here in the past.  I wasn't there so anything I say is second hand, but the story goes something like this.  Art was losing control, Libby garned her followers and went to Art's house where they confronted him.  Art threw them all out and that forever divided the hard core Seedling group.

Those that know more can clarify what really happened.  Ft Laud, care to help out here?
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« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2006, 11:23:00 PM »
It's kind of hard to explain. But I'll try and, as long as you want to toss out questions, I'll try to answer better.

In a way, all the staff and all the higher phasers had that affect of superiority and 'sacred science' sort of thing. It just wasn't anywhere near as convincing. It was sort of stilted, at least from my point of view. I don't think many people believed literally that there was any mind reading going on. Just that it was probably best to pretend it was. After all, there was behavioral science, intense scrutiny and surveilance coupled with mock junkie wisdumb at work and so forth.

I don't think they flushed the utopian dream at all. I think they thought they were improving on it; tweaking, perfecting, making it more efficient and scalable. That, after all, is what Mel Sembler does. He builds shopping malls to replace home towns. These days it's come full circle. He's building multi use developments which are, for all the world, about as close as you can get to the living/commerce space design of all these old towns around here. Living upstairs and to the back, storefront at the street, the whole town walkable. Only thing missing is the hills and wild berries.

What do you think, S? I know you don't have the same frame of reference that I do. But nobody ever worshiped Mel Riddile or Dean Mistratta that I've ever heard of (well... uh, except maybe Dean's Boys getting on their knees. But that's a different sort of worship LOL)

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« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2006, 11:38:00 PM »
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It has been posted about here in the past.


 :eek: People have posted here about it. Don't make me drive down there and pimp slap the passive sense out of your mouth!

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