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Anonymous:
Alright, I'm sorry about the moron bit. I just get pissed when people say "get over it." Believe me, I was confused for years after CEDU.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-08-04 16:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
" I will tell you one thing though, my past is more fucked up then you all could imagine. In fact my family is. My mom is a drug addict who has been divorced twice, and my father is mormon and makes me clean the house and watch the kids...I grew up in quite a poor house hold in which I was neglected and abused. See, I have got a past that most are scared of,
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Sorry, but you have no idea what any of us have been through either. Your past is no more scary than mine or many many others. You ain't special dear.
Anonymous:
I don't believe I ever asked anybody to feel sorry for me, I don't even feel sorry for myself. My simple point was that you all are being retarded about this. You got sent to fucking CEDU, get the fuck over it. If you are not there anymore, then why the fuck does it matter? It doesn't. You're not there. Sorry if any of you got "abused" there, that sucks, but if I recall correctly, and I was there recently, there was no abuse going on. And just so whoever the hell it was that predicted that bleary outcome for me, that is funny. I don't have a particular "enthusiasm" for CEDU - I just happened to stumble upon this sight when doing research about the history of the school. As well as I have had my drug and alcohol days and with those, the shittiness of an addicts life. Therefore, I am pretty much through with that. I am not a "dreamer" or any of that bullshit. I am a straight foward and logical person, who happened to have a fucked up past, I've reconciled with it, and now I am moving on. Something of which you all should do as well. Have a nice day, I hope ya'll find some peace.
blownawaytheidahoway:
how all the stuff with Otowa5&2 started. I just want to say again that my experience was not really good. Even if it MIGHT have saved me. And that phone call with mom and dad and the threats of jail until I was 18. True. That is unfair. Being punished for what? I had never stolen anyones shit (money, car, or soul)did tons of drugs, I hadn't done anything but run away alot. So I was punished for adolesence. Nothing more. FOlks had a baby and I had basic sibling rivalry that took arms and starting revolting early. Lot's of personal factors, of course. But to be punished for hormonal changes? Puberty?
And the raps. Described well, accurately and in detail in many postings. And to take us all out of oblivion, it's like this: People feel things differently. Some people who went to CEDU or RMA feel things a LOT. We can't help it. When we were in our most developemental period the kind of communication we recieved was totally inappropriate. And the messages WERE hostile, out of touch, scary, mean, very wierd sometimes, and unpredictable when the fire would combust under you for NOTHING.
And as for abuse. There was physical hazings in the dorms and everywhere else that staff were not privy to or supported. Ex CEDUITES were the worse.
Yes, I've been in touch a little with some staff and ex staff and they comment that these places have already changed a lot since 1990 and that the confrontational style that was employed during my tenure at RMA is different now. Non confrontational. So OTTS listen. What I think some of us are still needing to fight against is the idea that ANYONE can like it. I've been rational a long time about it but now...I'm with the Serb (staunch enemies of Hitler and facism) and Bryan who has more definitive statements with a FIRSTHAND experience like MINE. I loved it when I was brainwashed, and I Love the master who gave me my food and sometimes didn't beat me up hard for no reason. Fuck. It's hard to be nice to anyone who tells me what they don't know. Fuck the anons who defend CEDU ED and fuck the non anons who support CEDU too. whoops now I'm negative. I've got my summit and I DO use it, but man I wish I had a choice about the matter. I was ready after 2.5 years but a shell of the young man I could have become. I had to wait until I wasn't terrified of the world anymore. Then the nightmares about RMA started. The re-occuring dreams of returning there. Lies of love. Dreams of Raps and special moments that were only special becuase they stopped the current for a while. sheesh. Oh. BTW. I found a lot of the staff that I mentioned on another thread. I know where some of you work. And you ex-students who decided to take up with Ex staffers: Adam R., I can't wait to find out that you have had your pants sued off. What weaklings you are to NEVER try to live without the "program". And I resent the words you many have had for me and OUR kind who have experienced your evil EVIL will. You can't change the world while imprisoning children.
Ottowas, I'm glad I got involved. I'm great with kids but you shoud NEVER, NEVER think you would know what the fuck to do with a teen like I was. Sickening limp noodle and the gal needs something better to do with her time. This is not for people who don't want to hear the TRUTH.
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