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Out of curiosity: CEDU late eighties vs. CEDU 2000s

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Anonymous:
Does anyone know the difference between CEDU circa late eighties to more current practices?  I gather from the readings that it still sucks, in terms of group think, abusive raps and proheets, and wacky mind-f*&^!, but what is different? I know we had school two days a week and it was really elementary shit, like vocab lists when you are supposed to be a high school JR etc. and math w/o instruction. It was 45 minutes of "be quiet w/a math book and figure it out."  Science was sitting outside saying "if you rub two sticks together, you get fire. and water + dirt = mud."  

We also didn't have therapists then. I don't even remember anti-depressants or other prescriptions being prevalent at all. It seems meds were only given if absolutely necessary. I hear they over-prescribe now.  

---Shanlea

mikehunt:
tons of medicine...
i think they got rid of the therapists (not the 15 minute per month drug-prescribers, i don't think.. just the one hour a week keep-you-sane therapists.)  
skool was everyday when i was there (1996-99).  2 days a week, we'd have "skool" in the afternoon (PE and other secondary classes like art, if we had it.. these were peer group classes... if you were in discovery, this is when you'd do "werk ethic" aka chopping wood and shit.)
raps 3 times a week on the non-skool days... fun times.
they started doing sign-up activities on saturday and sunday afternoons, and during the evenings after awhile... i think they wanted to be able to keep track of people more easily, but the thing is, what about all those people who didn't sign up and just dipped off into the woods instead?  ha ha.
i never really got to do many of those sign up activities anyway... i was indefinitely signed up in back kitchen.  we had more unsupervised fun there anyway... baking cookies out of the dry ingredients they'd leave out, smoking by the dumpster, and just fucking around and being loud with my homies.  ahhh... who knew that scrubbing grimey pots and pans would be so much fun?

face_in_a_case:
yeah, i remember at one point they switched raps to the evening...yet we still had to wake up at 6:30.  This was circa 94-96 at BCA.

Luckily i read a lot and had a rather ravishing deisire for knowledge that fueled my determination to get a REAL education--at a reputable 4-year university--in between BS work assignments.  Like, hmmm, weeding a gravel path without gloves...educational, scientific, huh?  The library saved the day.  Vonnegut, yay!  Could you believe they carried Ayn Rand.  I read "Anthem" whilst incarcerated and cried, the irony!  Then I read "Atlas Shrugged" and no more Rand for me.

I barely weighed more than a buck and they had me on high doses of Depakote, Zoloft, and Trazadone.  No wonder why I can only remember on an incremental basis.

Now I have PTSD, terrible anxiety, major depression and paranoia.

but you know, i cannot place the blame entirely on the CEDU system, but it sure exacerbated the underlying tendecies my mind obviously geared toward to.  BAH!!  Ulrich at one point wanted to put me on a tricylic because he couldn't figure it out.  geez!

ha, i remember hearing that smoking was allowed in the 80's and we used to totally obsess on that, kids we were.

i think that things become more hidden in cedu.  the abuse becomes less flagrant and more cunning...tweaked here and there to avert unwanted attention.

Anonymous:
In the eighties, you did physical labor MWF until lunch, then you had raps for the rest of the day. School was on T and TH.

If you had school everyday, when were raps? At night?

Also, when you had work detail (dishes) there was NO screwing around b/c we all were on bans while we worked.  

I honestly thought most people were "clean" most of the time b/c I pretty much was just to stay outta trouble.  The only dirt I had was one split contract (which i copped to immediately upon questionning) and then when I split, but never teh random miscellany.  THere was no sneaking off to the woods.  A lot the older kids were like spies so I didn't think you could get away w/being dirty.  Maybe they were all dirty and I was just naive.  

How did all this work when you guys were there?

Anonymous:
Sounds like they got rid of the real therapists because they knew CEDU wasn't therapeutic, so they just kept the legal drug purveyors instead.
--Shanlea

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