Artman, So are you suggesting I should have left my son alone? Homeless?, On drugs and stealing? What's up with that nonsence? I am grateful that I never read all this negitive crap prior to sending him there. Was there somewhere else you can sugget that would have been better? You aren't left with a lot of choices when your kid tells you he is going to run away if you send him to any school. He could be rotting in a grave now instead. Would that have been a wiser choice? What kind of a parent are you if you think the latter is a better choice. That scares me in a big way. I understand they abused kids years ago, I am not discounting that! Even if they abused him, It can't be as bad as the alternative. He was pretty messed up and thought his life was normal. I've had him seeing shrinks since he was 7 years old. Yale child study ( they analized me instead), Meds, Nathropath DR. I would have tried a Witch DR if I thought it would have helped. Desperate times call for desperate acts. I wanted to kill him myself more times that I would like to recall. He was an asshole and did anything to piss me off (ODD). Try living with that in your house. He caused the entire family to argue every day because of the stress he caused.....Pretty sad to say about you first born child who you expected to go through school like every other kid. At that point, even if I thought they might abuse him, As sick as it sounds, I would have sent him anyway. He needed a major kick in the ass!!!!! He is a nice kid now. I've been alone with him, he doesn't like being there at all, but who would like all their freedom removed? I know he would like to date girls and have a normal life. He WILL get that chance, Thanks to elan. Remember what I said. He is 18 and could leave if he wanted. I am sorry for all of you who had horrific days and episodes there. It isn't my business, It is yours, and I am deeply sorry for you all. I hope you can all heal. Would your death have been a better choice? I am NOT SUGGESTING THIS but that is still an option for us all. I happen to love life. I have a great husband, 2 sons, my parents, siblings, a step family who are great, and some very close friends. Something everyone needs is a close friend who doesn't judge you. Please don't feel the need to tell me your horror stories, I have been reading this web site for a few months now. I think many of them are true and some are sensationalized. e'lan is a different place now. My son is learning and getting good grades. He is no longer an uneducated dope! Not the sharpest crayon in the box either, but I'll take this anyday over what I had. Don't cut my legs out from under me!! I MEAN THIS! I don't want to hear any crap from anyone, PLEASE! If you are still feeling wounded, It is time to move on and discuss this with someone who can help you We cannot change our history, what we can do is learn who we don't want to be and rise above. Write letters to those staff members and let them know just how shitty they were and ask for an appoligy. Yes some are dead and just know, they can never hurt another child again. Isn't it time to move on and focus on the future and the happy positive things in your lives?...HEY ARTMAN, Why did your parents send you there? They must have been pretty desperate. I dont have a lot of money, and I would offer a limb as barter if I could have my kid be a "normal person". :tup: I am afraid of when he comes home he will have no friends. He cannot go back to the old, and all the older "good kids" will be in college. Any suggestions? What did you do when you got out of there for friends? HEY, you didn't answer my question, WHY were YOU there, and how old are you? CCT