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Why did Max edit out all his quotes?
mikehunt:
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I would say it is important to keep the body in good health so that the lies our senses tell our minds can be kept to a minumum.
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i agree, that is why i had to pick at your suggestion for the kids to have a smoke.
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CEDU IS A CULT:
If you were tuning a violin, the tuning is the attunement. What happens to the attunement when the violin is smashed?
If the body is the soul's puppet and the mind is a messenger, is the mind the attunement between the body and soul?
I think we agree that if there are 3 elements of our temporal being and if an attunement exists, then either it is
1) the Body between the Mind and the Soul,
2) the Soul between the Mind and the Body, or
3) the Mind between the Body and the Soul.
However, if the attunement exists, then what happens to the attunement after the Body is destroyed?
Keeping in mind that attunement in this case is used as a quality of the Absolute Idea of Attunement.
I guess where I disagree that the mind is the attunement between the body and the soul, is that I believe that there are only two main elements of our temporal being.- Body and Soul.
I believe the Mind is of the Body and I also believe Science is well on the way to proving this.
I believe the Mind is of the Body, because if I took 1 dose of LSD, or if I had Alzheimer's Disease I am sure my Mind would be effected, whereas I don't neccessarily know that it would effect my soul. I believe that properly, the mind is of the body and that both should be used and distrusted as such on the long road of trying to Understand our Souls. I believe that by its nature, our souls are eternal (and unchangeable).
So if the mind is a product of the body, it is not an independantly acting entity able to become an attunement.
It is influenced by both the body and the soul, however, its birth and death are only dependent on the body.
If it is not a product of the body, then it must be of the soul, being a product of supernatural forces.
However I go back to the Greek argument against the violin example to dismiss the idea of the eternal mind.
There is a school of thought that believes the Body and the Soul are products of the Mind.
I just disagree with that nihilistic attitude.
It assumes that we are important. If John's mind were destroyed, I could see that he still has a Body even if he were unable to comprehend it. I believe that there is an Ultimate Absolute Reality that is unaffected by Mind's opinion of it.
So I'm trying to understand my Soul. I try to use my mind and my body. I don't believe that I can influence or change my Soul's eternal characteristics so I don't believe I have the power to harm it by smoking anything or tatooing or piercing or whatever. I only question whether or not any bodily affect, effects my mind's ability for understanding. The same goes for other issues in my life, some increase understanding- some decrease.
So what is the nature of the Soul? It is the cause of the difference in reality between living and existing, life and death. Is it invisible? No. Haven't you ever seen it in someone's eyes?[ This Message was edited by: Bryan Felsher on 2004-07-04 20:00 ]
Anonymous:
this is an interesting discussion... i think it would make more sense to have it via (virtually) non-delayed dialogue... most of my responses on here are rushed and whatnot.
do you have aim or something?
Anonymous:
oops...
didn't mean to post anon
-LAURA
mikehunt:
ok... the mind IS of the body, but the mental process (which is a product of the mind, and consequently, of the body) serves as a sort of decoder (the language used to make sense of it) for these spiritual/physical communications. like i was saying before, the spirit is the essential element, and the others are attuned to this essence.
about the smoking thing: it's not that the harm you do unto your body can damage your soul... your soul's existence is much more fundamental than your body's, as you've previously expressed. what i was saying is that a kid running away from cedu might be having bodily reactions to the cigarettes and end up ignoring some crucial intuitive sensations because they're trying to tune out the negative sensations that come along with smoking. (what if they felt like they couldn't run anymore because their lungs were too beat? i mean, surely, they could run further, and their soul would prolly be telling them to do so, but their bodies might not allow them to believe it enough to push past it because of the physical abuse.) doing harm unto your body puts a barrier between the body and soul.. from heroin addiction on down to poor eating habits. i've recently revolutionized my diet and realized that i have much more spiritual potential when i'm in optimal condition.
anyway, maybe that's just me, but rememebr, i'm a self-righteous fuck.
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laura solomon
cedu vet. 1996-1999
RIP[ This Message was edited by: mikehunt on 2004-07-04 21:19 ]
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