I want to say something about Joe. Yes, in retrospect, he was, in some ways, a creepy man-child. But for me, that was more from appearance than anything else. He is just as much at fault as anyone else for being wrapped up in the program, but there were some things he did very differently.
Does anyone remember raps with him? I don't remember too much, but what I *do* remember is that he had a standing rule that nobody was to run their anger. He would often try to calm people down if they started to go off, and get them to the point of sadness instead of hysteria. I also don't remember him ever yelling at anyone, but I could be wrong about that.
Another thing is: bestiality is a LOT more common than people think. It's not just some asian chick on the internet getting fucked by a dog. There was actually a study (I have no idea how the numbers were acquired on this) which found that people who grew up in rural areas were much more likely to have had a sexual experience with an animal, and Joe DID grow up in a rural area.
Even without the rural aspect, I have had several friends confide to me that they have been blown by a dog. Trust me, it's a lot more pedestrian than one would expect.
However, if I ever fucked an animal, RMA would be the LAST place I would want to admit something like that.
Joe fucked a horse. Not a smart move, but you know what it's smarter than? Fucking kids who trusted you.
I'll take a horse-fucker over a pedophile any day, thank you. (I actually had a date with a horse-fucker once. He was starting to finally migrate to humans.) Although he was way too much into Jimmy Buffet. I felt that was a much more unforgivable offense..
