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Escuela Caribe ~ New Horizons
hanzomon4:
Well you can only do so much.....
Just be there for them like you have been and try to be a non-judgmental ear they can chose to use, or not. NHYM(especially EC) from what I've heard is horrible, it ranks up there with High Impact, Straight, Tranquility Bay... you get the idea. Even if they were not abused as bad as others, I'm sure they had to witness some "bad" "stuff". Not wanting to talk about it is common, they may want to never talk about it. It's not easy to face that kind of abuse but many do eventually face it and start talking.
The problems they have now is likely a result of what they went through. Ask most of the survivors on here and they will tell you that for the years after being in the program they either shut down or self destructed. I'd say it's part of PTSD, look at the trouble folks retuning from Iraq are facing, and the after effects of thought reform. It may take a while but they will heal. Having a person that cares about them, believes them when they chose to speak, and validates that what happened to them was wrong and not their fault I think goes a long way in helping along the healing process.
You could try looking for information on people who have been through complex, traumatic experiences for tips on how you can help. Goodluck
Nihilanthic:
Abuse is abuse. This isn't about who suffered the most or comparing notes for validation.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""hanzomon4"" ---Well you can only do so much.....
Just be there for them like you have been and try to be a non-judgmental ear they can chose to use, or not. NHYM(especially EC) from what I've heard is horrible, it ranks up there with High Impact, Straight, Tranquility Bay... you get the idea. Even if they were not abused as bad as others, I'm sure they had to witness some "bad" "stuff". Not wanting to talk about it is common, they may want to never talk about it. It's not easy to face that kind of abuse but many do eventually face it and start talking.
The problems they have now is likely a result of what they went through. Ask most of the survivors on here and they will tell you that for the years after being in the program they either shut down or self destructed. I'd say it's part of PTSD, look at the trouble folks retuning from Iraq are facing, and the after effects of thought reform. It may take a while but they will heal. Having a person that cares about them, believes them when they chose to speak, and validates that what happened to them was wrong and not their fault I think goes a long way in helping along the healing process.
You could try looking for information on people who have been through complex, traumatic experiences for tips on how you can help. Goodluck
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Hi Hanzomon4 ~
Thank you for your kind words.
Yes, both of these girls (well, now 22 & 19) have been through a lot. Our father died - and he was a truly wonderful, normal, loving father. But the home was pretty dysfunctional as my step-mother (their mother) was (is) a really fanatic born-again (she of course became that way after my dad married her) & some weird stuff went on in that home for a long time.
But more than that, was the neglect of these kids, especially all the years dad was sick. The mom just went to church, & church-related activities ALL THE TIME and the girls just went from bad to worse. When it got super-bad - off they were shipped to NHYM to be "fixed". Lot of good that did.
I'm just amazed & bewildered that NHYM takes these kids - MANY from troubled homes - and then lays it on the kids that THEY are the ones who are troubled & need help.
When my one sister was @ Marion, there was a very young girl there - about 12 yrs. old who (according to my sister) had been molested, abused, etc. She was a scared kid acting out. She ran away from Marion. When she was brought back they cut all her hair off as punishment for running away!!! Can you imagine doing that to a poor, scared 12 year old girl!! What the hell kind of "punishment" is that??
I'm not saying every single thing that went on within the NHYM programs is "bad". I'm sure some of the things they do are loving and caring. But, over-all it seems to me like a bunch of un-professionals are running the show and relying on their religion to fix everything - without really trying to understand some of the underlying, complex issues surrounding these troubled kids. And not to mention the VERY POOR education they offer. The whole thing is a (sad) joke.
I guess I'm really upset now because last week my youngest sister (the one who was at Marion) was beaten (for the second time) by her gangster/thug boyfriend & sent to the emergecy room (he went to jail) .......all while the mother was in Colorado at yet another Andrew Wommack conference. This type of stuff has been going on for a long time and it's just so frustrating to see problems being constantly swept under the rug. And, in my opinion, NHYM was the perfect "rug" for a while. Sweep the kid under the NHYM rug - and let them deal with it for a while. Well, at least in our family, that's exactly what happened. And NHYM should be more in tune with parents who pull that shit and not allow that! But they did. They did NO family counseling (in fact, we were totally cut-off from our sisters except for very brief - and I should say monitored phone calls once in a blue moon). I'm just so aggravated that this kind of stuff goes on.
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