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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-04-26 22:12:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Who is Craig Rogers (i.e. would it have been bad that he was once program director for Positive Impact?)"

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No, it would not be bad, just a point of reference for someone looking for information about a particular program.  Besides, Rogers listed the program on his own bio which seems to me he has no objections about his past association with the program in question.

Anonymous:
Spots endorsing Positive Impact...funny...seems to be a connection between Spots, Tim Weiner, Craig Rogers, Positive Impace, Karen Z, Steve Bozak...and so on and so on.

Anonymous:
craig rogers was also associated with Rite of Passage.  you will find an article re: rite of passage at nospank.net  bootcamps.html

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-04-26 21:17:00, spots wrote:

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 Casa by the Sea has a great reputation in their community, so why do you think Positive Impact is better.  A Program is a Program.  "


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Excuse me?  EXCUSE ME!  Exactly what community, other than the BBS WWASPS Board, gives Casa by the Sea a great reputation?  Give me one...one... single independent representative of any "community" who gives Casa a great reputation. Or, ...reputation for what?  Turning out "respectful, loving", terrified kids for the first 6 months they're home?  



A Program may be a Program, but perhaps Positive Impact has the staff, training, methodology to be a...well, positive impact.  Casa does not."

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First, who are you affiliated or in bed with that refers to Positive Impact?  Second, your grand daughter did not complete the program, her mother was bullied, or should I say threatened, by you to bring her home, or else! If she is having nightmares, guess who causes them?

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-04-27 06:54:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2004-04-26 21:17:00, spots wrote:


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 Casa by the Sea has a great reputation in their community, so why do you think Positive Impact is better.  A Program is a Program.  "



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Excuse me?  EXCUSE ME!  Exactly what community, other than the BBS WWASPS Board, gives Casa by the Sea a great reputation?  Give me one...one... single independent representative of any "community" who gives Casa a great reputation. Or, ...reputation for what?  Turning out "respectful, loving", terrified kids for the first 6 months they're home?  





A Program may be a Program, but perhaps Positive Impact has the staff, training, methodology to be a...well, positive impact.  Casa does not."


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First, who are you affiliated or in bed with that refers to Positive Impact?  Second, your grand daughter did not complete the program, her mother was bullied, or should I say threatened, by you to bring her home, or else! If she is having nightmares, guess who causes them? "

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I'd guess The Program.

"Gee, if we'd only abused you some more you'd be just fine!"

Sorry, but there's *no* clinical treatment with rigorous scientific studies backing its efficacy that has the patient well at the end of treatment and having nightmares in the middle if they don't finish the treatment.

Generally, if someone gets worse in the middle of a psychiatric "treatment" of many months' duration, it's pretty good evidence that the "treatment" is on the wrong track.

Insanity is doing what you did before some more and thinking you're going to get different results.

But it's a wonderful copout for dealing with dissatisfied customers---if they decide your service is crap and leave in the middle (as most dissatisfied customers will), you blame all their problems on their having left in the middle.

It means never having to take responsibility for the psychiatric casualties of a bad treatment strategy.

Too bad for you that it's so easy for the outside world to see through that kind of cop-out.

Which is why the Programs hide as much of what they do as possible *from* the outside world, isn't it?

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