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Offline Nihilanthic

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« on: April 25, 2004, 08:45:00 PM »
I've never been in these places, but that story about tranquility bay caught my eye... I couldn't stop thinking about it, imagining how bad it is, and that I can't stand it happening. I've lost lots of sleep. I want to help.

Then I started thinking about my own past. I'm only 19, so I still remember what happened in the 5th grade. See, I've had (and still do to a much lesser degree) have something called "semantic pragmatic disorder". But in the 5th grade it was so bad I did not understand people, what I said came out really weird, and I would attract abuse from my "peers", if not make people pick fights. I was misdiagnosed as Bipolar and drew attention for verbally lashing out when I became frustrated at how apathetic the teachers were.

So, I was pulled from that normal school and found out I'd be going to a "special place" for half-days. I even had a taxi pick me up! (and 2 other boys, who were either screwed up and needed help for just too violent at their regular school). The work was exceedingly easy, but I noticed how there were 4 levels you could be at. I didn't think much of it. I also noticed there was a 'timeout room' and sometimes I'd see large faculty members pinning people down and dragging them in there. I'm a claustrophobe, and that horrified me.

Then I learned the story of why the lock to that room is springloaded and someone has to stand there and hold it shut - there was fire and apparently a child locked in there died from smoke inhalation.

I didn't stay there long, I didn't realize where I was or why. But after I found out about this crap going on under everyone's noses I realized I dodged a bullet. I was terrifyingly close to ending up in one of these hellholes. I was nonviolent, I was in the AG program (smart kids) so the work was exceedingly easy and I didn't do anything to anyone, so I was pulled out.

I got the help I needed - speech therapy and socialization with other people to learn how to understand people better. Imagine how screwed up I'd be now if I was in one of those 'treatment' camps? I doubt I could speak coherantly and I'd probably be a shell of myself or psychotic.

I dodged a bullet. I'm not going to just forget what I've discovered, or forget the fact that I almost because a survivor, or worse.

My email is [email protected] , as is my MSN. AIM is Nihilanthic2. If anyone has any info, or just want someone talk to - I'm usually available.

And no, I'm not just going to give up. I'd like to help organize all of the outcry and all of the victims and advocatsy groups together so there could be a coherant campaign to the media and law enforcement.
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2004, 12:49:00 AM »
You say you have no experience of these schools, yet you want to help shut them down?  Is this Jeff Berryman??
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2004, 01:11:00 AM »
Did you read my whole post?

Do I have to have been there to care about whats going on? Some people are decent enough to give a shit. And I came close to going to a place like these. I was also a screwed up kid who needed help!

And even if I never had come near it, I still know whats going on, and I'm going to try to help. This is sick and disgusting, its horrific. I actually care about other human beings. I can't do nothing, knowing this is happening every day to thousands of CHILDREN while I live comfortably in my apartment, eat food fit for human consumption and have rights and priviladges.

Who are you anyway? Who is Jeff Berryman?

And no, my name is Chris. If you want to contact me I've given several ways to do so. [ This Message was edited by: Nihilanthic on 2004-04-25 22:27 ]
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2004, 07:04:00 AM »
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You say you have no experience of these schools, yet you want to help shut them down? Is this Jeff Berryman??


Hey WWASPie.  Yes, Anon, I'm talking to you.  Who else would jump to that conclusion?

So, if I sodomize my ten-year-old daughter that's nobody's business but my own?  WRONG!

Child abuse is everybody's business.  Its not just a private matter between abuser and victim.  A growing number of people are learning the truth about you and your programs.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2004, 08:10:00 AM »
Kiwi... any information for me? I've spoken to a survivors on AIM all night... I haven't cried so long in my life.

I just sent emails to a few celebrities and John Kerry about this. I hope I get a reply. I hope they do something.

I can't believe this shit is going on. This is just too bad to be real.  :cry:
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2004, 03:19:00 PM »
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You say you have no experience of these schools, yet you want to help shut them down? Is this Jeff Berryman??



Hey WWASPie.  Yes, Anon, I'm talking to you.  Who else would jump to that conclusion?



So, if I sodomize my ten-year-old daughter that's nobody's business but my own?  WRONG!



Child abuse is everybody's business.  Its not just a private matter between abuser and victim.  A growing number of people are learning the truth about you and your programs."


 :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:

THANK YOU Kiwi!  Although he doesn't have to be a WWASPie, just a Republican.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2004, 06:55:00 PM »
I'm a Republican and I support ending the abuse at RTC's by passing laws requiring an end to the isolation of the children, requiring licensing of RTC's, outlawing certain common escort practices and treating violations as kidnapping under federal law, and giving juveniles enforceable legal rights not to be involuntarily committed to an RTC for trivial reasons.

I also support giving all juvenile American citizens the legal right to refuse to leave the country, although I'm still thinking about enforcement mechanisms/consequences.

Please don't make this issue a partisan thing, because it's not.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2004, 07:27:00 PM »
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On 2004-04-25 21:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You say you have no experience of these schools, yet you want to help shut them down?  Is this Jeff Berryman??"


Actually, a good many of the people who post here and ask questions are either journalists, friends or family to kids placed in these types of programs or just people interested in youth rights. Never mind all the lurkers!

If you think that all the criticizm of this industry is coming from one little woman in Ft. Lauderdale, you're kidding yourself.

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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2004, 07:58:00 PM »
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If you think that all the criticizm of this industry is coming from one little woman in Ft. Lauderdale, you're kidding yourself.


The "little woman in Ft. Lauderdale" does not critisize the "industry" she makes money off of it.  She critisizes the competition.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2004, 08:19:00 PM »
Okay you troglodite. I've had it.

You fucking miscreant. FUCK YOU.

If you want to troll a board, you could pick a little better than a fucking survivors forum for abused, raped, and tortured teenagers. THESE ARE CHILDREN! The adults were abused as children.

This isn't about money or an industry. Its about ending the suffering and justice. I doubt any of them WANT money, and all I've talked to do not. Any winnings would probably go into a foundation for REAL help, and therapy for these abused people.

And quit posting anonymously you coward. Its not like they can't just trace your IP anyway  :grin:
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2004, 09:03:00 PM »
Hey Niles -
Your going to need a thicker skin; that is, assuming the program person really did get under it.
These poor program people think anyone an everyone who is critical of The Program is one of two people, or somehow controlled and influenced by them.
This is not so; but they Will Not face the fact.
You have been asked if you are one of the two - Jeff B.
If you do indeed stick with the fight, you'll eventually learn whoz who - but it is much harder nowadayz - as so many of us feel it best to post anon.
Besides growing a thicker skin, it would be wise not to get caught up in the 'politics' of the business.
However, getting involved in politics, as you have done, is important and I wish more would do so.
I myself am a Republican. As much as I'm able, I have made my Representives aware of the issue and my feelings about it. I await action. I am sick and tired of waiting. I have also made it clear that even tho I have voted republican all my voting life; this is the one issue that can and will flip my vote. Which ever party acts on this issue and Does something about it, has got my support.
Also, there is a lot of media following the story. A willingness to read the stories and respond to the editors is helpful. They are often bombarded by Program Parents all saying how great the program is; how it saved their family and all. Their are a lot of them. If you do stick with this, you'll soon enough come to understand why. . .
For this reason, they all sound just the same.
So, even tho their letters may outnumber the program detractors 10 to 1; the detractors all have various perspectives and accounts and experiences; and so are more credible, IMO. Adding you voice to this number will be a definite plus - as long as you can keep your cool.
So good luck Niles
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God's Peace
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2004, 10:02:00 PM »
God's Peace how do you get the name Niles out of the name Chris?
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2004, 11:57:00 PM »
Odd pet name. But Nihi, Nihil, and Nilly are the normal ones.

Well, I'm prepared to deal with some stupid remakers from some brainwashed people. I just felt like lashing out at an idiot. It felt good. I've been trolled by better trolls, though.

It did get to me that someone would troll this kind of forum, however. :flame:

If anyone wants to talk, you know how to contact me.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2004, 08:13:00 AM »
Karen & her friends are playing games again.

Funny Niles/Chris you started this thread as though you were new to all of the discussions.  It sure sounds like that is not quite the case.  You seem just a little to hostile over very small anon comments to be a newbie.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2004, 04:41:00 PM »
For weeks I've dug into this 'industry' and found out about the crap in it.

Once I had been filled to the brim with bullshit I figured it was time to contact people and help out.

And yeah... trying to rub it into survivors faces... ticks me off. Troll another forum, sheesh.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."