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« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2004, 11:38:00 AM »
The WWASPS debate began back in the late '90's, long before Scheff arrived on the scene. To confirm this, one has only to dig through the archives on the Bridge to Understanding forum and Alexia Parks (Teen Liberty) website.  Lon Woodbury's archives also date back to this time period. Don't know what happened to the folks who were involved back then before Pure picked up the gauntlet.  Perhaps Jeff Berryman can enlighen us all?
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« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2004, 11:45:00 AM »
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On 2004-04-28 08:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The WWASPS debate began back in the late '90's, long before Scheff arrived on the scene. To confirm this, one has only to dig through the archives on the Bridge to Understanding forum and Alexia Parks (Teen Liberty) website.  Lon Woodbury's archives also date back to this time period. Don't know what happened to the folks who were involved back then before Pure picked up the gauntlet.  Perhaps Jeff Berryman can enlighen us all?  "


Here is a good starting point for anyone interested in the good ole' days ... try cut and pasting this URL into your browser if the link below malfunctions.  Enjoy!

http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... point=1550
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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2004, 12:16:00 PM »
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On 2004-04-28 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2004-04-28 08:38:00, Anonymous wrote:


"The WWASPS debate began back in the late '90's, long before Scheff arrived on the scene. To confirm this, one has only to dig through the archives on the Bridge to Understanding forum and Alexia Parks (Teen Liberty) website.  Lon Woodbury's archives also date back to this time period. Don't know what happened to the folks who were involved back then before Pure picked up the gauntlet.  Perhaps Jeff Berryman can enlighen us all?  "




Here is a good starting point for anyone interested in the good ole' days ... try cut and pasting this URL into your browser if the link below malfunctions.  Enjoy!



http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... point=1550"



http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 1;t=001471
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« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2004, 01:26:00 AM »
Have you ever been in that place NO i think not you are probably just another stupid parent brainwashed by the WWASPS programs listen i was in tranquility bay in jamaica for 2 years. I was beaten and molested so i dont want to hear some fucking bullshit that you say "allegations" they are not i lived in there i had to live with the fear of getting beaten every day or molested that is not a very good life and why because my mom got a new husband and decided i was important enough anymore? the WWASPS programs are for parents that dont want to have to deal with kids anymore well you shouldnt have had them then if you didnt want to have to deal with them later in there life the WWASPS programs do not solve problems they mask them or create new ones. the WWASPS programs are inhuman and the only way they keep running is because of all their donations to this and that. anybody who has been to any of the programs can tell you whether they are a graduate of one or stayed on level one the whole time. SO I DONT WANT TO HEAR YOUR SHIT ABOUT "ALIGATIONS" BECAUSE YOU ARE JUST FUCKING IGNORANT WHEN YOU SAY THAT. go to one of the programs for a year or two and you will understand after you have been beaten and after a guy has physically touched you then you come back to me and tell me what you think about your aligations then!
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« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2004, 02:54:00 AM »
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On 2004-04-28 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2004-04-28 08:38:00, Anonymous wrote:



"The WWASPS debate began back in the late '90's, long before Scheff arrived on the scene. To confirm this, one has only to dig through the archives on the Bridge to Understanding forum and Alexia Parks (Teen Liberty) website.  Lon Woodbury's archives also date back to this time period. Don't know what happened to the folks who were involved back then before Pure picked up the gauntlet.  Perhaps Jeff Berryman can enlighen us all?  "







Here is a good starting point for anyone interested in the good ole' days ... try cut and pasting this URL into your browser if the link below malfunctions.  Enjoy!





http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... point=1550"






http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 1;t=001471"


Is this a joke?  Aren't these the screen names that PURE used and are involved in the lawsuit over?  Thought Woodbury would have deleted it!  OOops!
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« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2004, 03:03:00 AM »
http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 1;t=001471

The previous post may not have included the click on link someone posted regarding the good ole days.  Note the names of the posters.

Excerpt from http://www.purerebuttal.com - a cut and paste...

" Defendants have assumed false identities, including Mark D.W., Lara, Deb C., Tracy Brittany Reese, Sue, Zeta M., Stewart, Mercy, Heidi R., Hilda, and TeenAdvocatesUSA and have conspired to create an impression among parents visiting these websites that World Wide and its affiliated programs have committed criminal acts against teen age enrollees, have physically and sexually abused teen age enrollees, and have failed to operate programs lawfully. Defendants Jeff Berryman, Barbe Stamp and Donna Hedrick have falsely and deceptively declared themselves ?experts in the behavior modification industry in order to attack World Wide."
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« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2004, 12:56:00 PM »
But this is only a complaint. The case is still pending. From what I hear, it'll never go to trial and so we'll never have a difinitive answer from a court or jury.

Straight, Inc. used to do the same damned thing. Whenever someone tried to sue for damages, they'd just get any leagle eagles in the parents group along w/ lawyers hired w/ the money they'd bilked out of the families and just file so many motions and demands that the plaintif couldn't possibly keep up and would have to default in the end.

More's the evil when you realize that, in most cases, they're using the plaintiff's own money against them.

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« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2004, 01:21:00 PM »
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On 2004-04-29 09:56:00, Antigen wrote:

"But this is only a complaint. The case is still pending. From what I hear, it'll never go to trial and so we'll never have a difinitive answer from a court or jury.



Straight, Inc. used to do the same damned thing. Whenever someone tried to sue for damages, they'd just get any leagle eagles in the parents group along w/ lawyers hired w/ the money they'd bilked out of the families and just file so many motions and demands that the plaintif couldn't possibly keep up and would have to default in the end.



More's the evil when you realize that, in most cases, they're using the plaintiff's own money against them.

We are a one party country. Half of them call themselves Democrats and the other half call themselves Republicans. All the good ideas come from the Libertarians.
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What is the status of this case?  Can we get an update on the court docket from November 2003 to the present?  Also, what about that lawsuit against the UPI reporter?  What's going on with that one?
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« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2004, 04:12:00 PM »
Honestly, I don't have enough interest to even pay the fees and gain access to those docs. I just don't think it's that important in the greater scheme of things.

What's important, in my view, is that the public continue to gain more and better information about the Troubled Parent Industry in order to better inform a much needed and long delayed dialog about it. As far as the lawsuits, it's enough to know that these are some exceptionally litigious people. Legalistic, some might say (lol!)

Other types of information, imo, are far more relavent. For example, what do program graduates have to say about their experience five years down the road? What is the therapeutic benefit to social isolation, emotional badgering and other aspects of forced behavior modification? In other words, let's talk about all of those aspects of Program life that are legal to discuss (not breaching any legitimate confidentiality concerns) and which Program proponants seem to work very hard at keeping secret.

That's the whole thing, my entire agenda, right out there in front of God and everybody. If the industry can stand that kind of exposure, more power to ya'. But I really don't think that it can.

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« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2004, 06:33:00 PM »
Hey, I don't know who you are, but all I gotta say is one thing. I'm living proof. I was there for over 2 years, and I am living proof and none no matter what they say shall ever discount that.
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« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2004, 06:35:00 PM »
I am not a buisness, I am a person, standing alone, fighting the bad to help change what must come. I do what is right and stand for the good in life.
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« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2004, 06:41:00 PM »
i told my mother of my abuse every chance i got before my therapist would hang up the phone on me and tell my mother that i was lying and being manipulative with her to get out of provo, now my mother knows that she has been dooped a year after i have been ou, she finally realized that they screwed her over and abused me every day of my life there. so watch out before you say something that is unwarranted. will ya? the oly way i had contact to tell my abuse was friends, they listened and and no one read my letters cause i kept them well hidden. even when writting letters to my mother about it, she never believed me, but everyone else who had a brain and wasn't washed were listening, they just couldn't do anything.
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« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2004, 07:17:00 PM »
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The Prague Post, December 11, 1998
Morava Academy heads arrested before
By Ladka Bauerova

The American couple Glenda and Steven Roach, arrested last month in the Czech Republic on charges of illegal imprisonment and torture of the 57 teenagers found at Morava Academy, have a past marred by similar offenses. The couple has managed other illicit prison-like facilities for troubled American teens and been arrested in other foreign countries.

According to U.S. social worker Donna Headrick and her research team, the couple was arrested May 1996 while running a girls' facility called Sunrise Beach on Mexico's Yucatan peninsula. After three teenage girls escaped from the institution and made complaints about sexual abuse, an immigration inspector visited the facility and found that the girls did not have the proper paperwork to be in the country. The inspectors also found poor sanitation standards and signs of abuse.

Shortly thereafter, the staff with 41 girls were intercepted at the local airport trying to leave the country. Mexican federal police arrested the staff, including Steven and Glenda Roach, and charged them with depriving juveniles of their liberty and with running an unlicensed and unsanitary facility. As at Morava Academy, Sunrise Beach was shut down by police officials, and the couple eventually managed to leave Mexico.

The Roaches are longtime employees of an organization called Teen Help. Based in Utah, Teen Help operates a network of institutions that promises to set problematic kids straight. While many parents and children have defended the program and claim it has changed their lives, others report horror stories and speak of the staff's brutal practices, including starvation, chemical burns, handcuffing and psychological abuse.

"Kids are not treated well in these facilities. I saw horrible things," said Donna Burke, 48, from Houston, Texas. Her ex-husband sent their two sons to Tranquillity Bay, another of Teen Help's facilities in Jamaica. She told The Prague Post that in August 1997 an "escort service" -- two men hired by her ex-husband -- kidnapped her then-14-year-old son, Scott. "They handcuffed him and carried him out of the school screaming," she said.

Three months later, the escort service came for her elder son David, now 17. "I was trying to get them back, but my ex-husband ran up my legal fees so high I finally had to give up."

She went on describing the poor hygienic conditions and maltreatment of the children in the facility. "They take a shower with a hose, using only cold water," she said. During a surprise visit, she discovered that all the kids had ringworm.

The staff attempted to treat the fungus, but with horrible results. "My younger son had scars from chemical burns," Burke said.

Complaining to state authorities didn't help, she said: "The State Department people say, 'They're out of the country, there is nothing we can do.' One guy at the State Department told me straight to my face: 'We don't like to mess with rich people's kids.' " And rich they are, she added, since one year's tuition at Tranquillity Bay costs $38,000 (1.14 million Kc).

After 13 months, Burke's older son David returned home, but his mother is distressed by his state of mental and physical health. "He's been brainwashed," she said. "We get in a fight every time we talk about the school, and he yells at me for fighting against it. And this is a boy who was begging, crying and pleading for me to take him home when I first visited him," Burke said.

Cases where one parent places the child in a behavior-modification facility against the will of the other parent are not uncommon, according to social worker Headrick. "They have their children legally kidnapped," she said. "The people usually come in the middle of the night, wake the kid up, handcuff him and take him away."

The Teen Help organization is part of a complicated network of companies and nonprofit organizations run mostly from La Verkin, a small community near St. George, Utah. They have at least eight behavior modification schools located in Mexico, Jamaica, Western Samoa, and the United States, Teen Help also operates several hospitals and other "service oriented" companies. One of them is Youth Transport Services (YTS) which, according to Headrick, does the kidnapping. Another organization, "Resources Realizations," runs seminars for parents who have placed their children in one of the Teen Help schools. Before taking part in the seminars, participants must sign a confidentiality clause.

About a year ago, Teen Help established a nonprofit organization called World Wide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP). Its Web page provides little information and its president, Karr Farnsworth, who visited the Czech Republic during the Morava Academy crisis last month, refused to reveal details other than saying it is the umbrella organization of the Teen Help facilities. In an interview for a Utah newspaper, he compared the Czech police to the Soviet KGB, adding that Czech police don't like Americans.

One WWASP partner, attorney J. Ralph Atkin, is also registered as a majority owner of Morava Academy and an owner of EuroSky Airlines, which provides special flights to selected European cities including Vienna -- only two hours away by car from Morava Academy.



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After infiltrating law enforcement in the Czech Republic for the sole purpose of fucking w/ WWASP, Sue went on to place her kid in a WWASP facility as a ploy to get insider info. The kid's probably not even a kid, just one of those eplastic aonemea (sp?) patients. She's really 40! Damn ISAC and PURE and their diabolical plans, eh?  
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« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2004, 09:39:00 PM »
Hey, check this out

http://www.cafeshops.com/bigmooch.10556 ... m=yes#zoom

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« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2004, 10:04:00 PM »
Why don't you go and look for it yourself and do some research, it is really not that hard to do, and maybe you shall learn much more than you intended to do while looking for these truths.
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