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Deborah:
I think "God" would say, "Shame on the parent that spoils their children, then warehouses them to be 'fixed'."
Wouldn't that be punishing the child for the "sins" of the parent?
I have no doubt s/he might also recommend that the parent put their attention on fixing what they messed up to begin with. What needs to be learned here is more relevant to the parent anyway.
Anonymous:
Sure Deb - what you say is true often enough to be valid; However, there are plenty of kids, who for no apparent reason, and with perfectly good parents, fall off the deep end. Deep end, defined as possibly a serious drug problem; the sort that leads to theft, lying and violence; with the natural consequences of losing educational options, employment, self respect, freedom; leading to guilt and more and more serious consequences. There are other possibilities, but this is the one I am most familiar with.
Irregaurdless of how worthwhile the parents of such a one might be; they are not listened to and their good counsel is not heeded.
So, it does/can make sense to get the kid out of the home and in the company of others they will be more inclined to pay some attention to. This is not necessarily warehousing; and not necessarily harsh, demeaning, degrading and abusive; although we all know Some are; this does not mean All are.
And, even when the situation really is one of the parents being cracked pots; it can still be very helpful and worthwhile for the kid to get them in a new situation, were they can see and experience another and hopefully more successful and joyful way to get threw life.
It seems to me the biggest problem we have to deal with, as far as reforming the troubled teen business, is separating the wheat from the tares.
I know, many of you disagree and I think I understand why. We are definitely coming at the problem from opposite ends of the stick. And yet, there are areas where we can agree and others were we can compromise; and I hope before to long the teen help business will be viable, safe and truly helpful, far more often than not; As opposed to now, when it seems the occasional good program is like a diamond in a puddle of muck. I know many of you think there is no such thing as a good or necessary program; this is were we disagree and must compromise, if we are to do any good against the really bad ones.
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--- Quote ---On 2004-03-23 13:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"
Sure Deb - what you say is true often enough to be valid; However, there are plenty of kids, who for no apparent reason, and with perfectly good parents, fall off the deep end. Deep end, defined as possibly a serious drug problem; the sort that leads to theft, lying and violence; with the natural consequences of losing educational options, employment, self respect, freedom; leading to guilt and more and more serious consequences. There are other possibilities, but this is the one I am most familiar with.
Irregaurdless of how worthwhile the parents of such a one might be; they are not listened to and their good counsel is not heeded.
So, it does/can make sense to get the kid out of the home and in the company of others they will be more inclined to pay some attention to. This is not necessarily warehousing; and not necessarily harsh, demeaning, degrading and abusive; although we all know Some are; this does not mean All are.
And, even when the situation really is one of the parents being cracked pots; it can still be very helpful and worthwhile for the kid to get them in a new situation, were they can see and experience another and hopefully more successful and joyful way to get threw life.
It seems to me the biggest problem we have to deal with, as far as reforming the troubled teen business, is separating the wheat from the tares.
I know, many of you disagree and I think I understand why. We are definitely coming at the problem from opposite ends of the stick. And yet, there are areas where we can agree and others were we can compromise; and I hope before to long the teen help business will be viable, safe and truly helpful, far more often than not; As opposed to now, when it seems the occasional good program is like a diamond in a puddle of muck. I know many of you think there is no such thing as a good or necessary program; this is were we disagree and must compromise, if we are to do any good against the really bad ones.
"
--- End quote ---
Karen Z.(Anon)tell me, does ALA allow kids to be forcibly transported to their program in Utah? Yes or No, save the mickey mouse preaching for the program parents.
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Anonymous:
Karen Z.(Anon)tell me, does ALA allow kids to be forcibly transported to their program in Utah? Yes or No, save the mickey mouse preaching for the program parents.
Also, what is the percentage of kids (pasat and present) referred to ALA by ed consultants? Or PURE? Or other ALA parents. Or ????
Does ALA pay fees for referrals? Give tuition breaks, or offer any other kind of financial incentive for referrals that result in placement?
Just curious where ALA stands on these controversial issues.
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