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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-04-11 18:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---The difference being, is these kids have the opportunity to repent, be forgiven, and make good choices.
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Anon, what if there choice is not to repent? Then what do you do? What if, given they have free will as you say they do, what if they chose not to believe in God.
What is your definition of a good choice? I mean, how will you ever consider their choices to be good, if their first choice is not to believe in God."
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That is their choice. God gives us all free will to choose Him or not to choose Him. However, there is no eternal life apart from God. For you who do not believe this, are you willing to stake your eternal salvation on you being right and me being wrong?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-04-11 19:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---What is your definition of a good choice? I mean, how will you ever consider their choices to be good, if their first choice is not to believe in God."
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And there it is......you can't make good choices unless you believe in God?!?!?!?!"
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Proverbs 15:33
Cayo Hueso:
Please dont' throw Bible verses at me...I don't speak Bible. If there is a point you are trying to make, please state it.
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Perl Services
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-04-12 11:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---God bless you Craig. You and ALA are doing a great thing. Jesus was critisized for what He was doing to help others. Count it all joy when you are persecuted for doing what is right. The more He did to help others, the more He was persecuted, so I guess that means you are in excellent company!
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How you can compare Craig to Jesus is beyond me.
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Then trying to explain it to you any more wouldn't get through.
Anonymous:
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The difference being, is these kids have the opportunity to repent, be forgiven, and make good choices.
Anon, what if there choice is not to repent? Then what do you do? What if, given they have free will as you say they do, what if they chose not to believe in God.
What is your definition of a good choice? I mean, how will you ever consider their choices to be good, if their first choice is not to believe in God."
That is their choice. God gives us all free will to choose Him or not to choose Him. However, there is no eternal life apart from God. For you who do not believe this, are you willing to stake your eternal salvation on you being right and me being wrong?
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I know there is no eteranal salvation without God. But we can not force others to accept Him no matter how hard we try and no matter how bad we want it for them. It just does not work that way.
I am a Christian. That is my choice. But that does not mean I can force that choice on others, not even on my own children. If you force them to chose him, then you have chosen Him for them, they have not chosen Him for themselves. Don't you get it?
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