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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-04-11 12:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Neither you, nor I, nor any of the others who have so freely judge this mom has walked in her shoes. As such, none, except God in heaven, is able to competently judge her motives and her actions.
Praise God for the just God He is.
Have a blessed day.
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You're mistaken. 20 years ago, I was a kid on the receiving end of this kind of "help". Now, I have a 19yo daughter who only last summer returned home to us, having moved in w/ her boyfriend when she had been 16. There's a limit to what a parent can ethically do to a child in order to try and save them the grief of their own choices. We did everything we felt we could do w/o doing more harm than good.
I don't think Program proponants have any real idea what kind of harm they're potentially doing to these kids in the name of salvation. I do. I've lived it. Just getting kidnapped out of bed in the middle of the night, knowing your parents are paying for it, can be a profound betrayal. Never mind what follows such an event for the next year or two or three.
The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart.
Anonymity Anonymous
Cayo Hueso:
Once again, Ginger eloquently states what we're trying to say. If someone is bound and determined to do something you can't really stop[/b] them. You can teach them to the best of your ability, but at some point they have to learn on their own. If you take that opportunity away, you stunt their growth plain and simple. Some take years to recover, some never do.
The graduate with a Science degree asks, "Why does it work?"
The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, "How does it work?"
The graduate with an Accounting degree asks, "How much will it cost?"
The graduate with a Liberal Arts degree asks, "Do you want fries with that?"
--Anonymous
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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-04-11 16:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
Good God, what IS this world coming to when selling Jesus out is considered "responsible parenting"? Anon, I think YOU are the one who should be praying for mercy. Jesus is not your employer.
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I don't think this sort of thing is broadly considered responsible parenting. I think it's only a very tiny minority of parents who are involved in this sort of thing. They tend to believe they're the vast majority because they shut themselves off from the rest of society; such society being "evil" and "of 'the enemy'". These are the folks who read The Wormwood Letters and didn't get that Lewis was joking.
A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trust either of them
P.J. O'Rourke
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---The difference being, is these kids have the opportunity to repent, be forgiven, and make good choices.
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Anon, what if there choice is not to repent? Then what do you do? What if, given they have free will as you say they do, what if they chose not to believe in God.
What is your definition of a good choice? I mean, how will you ever consider their choices to be good, if their first choice is not to believe in God.
Anonymous:
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Anon, what if there choice is not to repent? Then what do you do? What if, given they have free will as you say they do, what if they chose not to believe in God.
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So your answer is to FORCE them to change??
--- Quote ---What is your definition of a good choice? I mean, how will you ever consider their choices to be good, if their first choice is not to believe in God."
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And there it is......you can't make good choices unless you believe in God?!?!?!?!
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