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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-03-23 19:52:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Speaking of transporters ...
http://strugglingteens.com/archives/200 ... gmyth.html
Well, some of these outfits may be more kind, more gentle, more respectful but kids are still being awakened in the middle of the night and forced into institutionalized-style programs so Mom and Dad don't have to do the dirty deed, themselves.
:roll: "
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--- Quote ---Some teens are willing to get help, others will go under false pretense, and then there is the need for escorting.
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Can anyone attribute that bit of marketing bullshit?
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin
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Antigen:
The term "Bible Thumper" derives from the days of the old Holy Roman Catholic crusades. They were the recruiters who'd stand at the village squares, thumping the Bible (which few, if any, of their audience were able to read) and promising great wealth, glory and adventure to those young men who would don the holy cross and march off to liberate the holy land from the heathen Moores.
Not much has changed.
You can lead a camel to water but you can't make it stink (any more than it already does)
-- Job
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Anonymous:
Deb -
No I didn't change my mind. I don't see the two statements as being inconsistent. Maybe knowing what?s in my own head keeps me from being able to see clearly how it sounds to others.
As for the questions you ask Craig; I?m not up on details; but I do know the kids didn't go without food or housing - because while all that was going on, my son was there. The boys weren't affected in any noticeable way. The food was plentiful; and good, I?m told, tho sometimes a bit spicy. My son came home knowing how to cook a good meal,and with a taste for hot sauce. He even puts it on his popcorn now. He likes to go to the grocery now, b/c he wants to buy the food he ate and learned how to fix in MX.
As for the consequences to ALA, I am under the impression the result was to make finances tight for a while; but it was the staff who sacrificed so the situation could be salvaged.
Ginger - Why slap the derogatory epitaph of Bible Thumper on here? This is a thread about a Christian Program. Doesn?t it follow that some expressing of Christian thought might be proper?
Besides, as you point out; back then, the common folk were illiterate and had to take the 'thumpers' word for what was in The Book. Today, we most all of us can read and so can find out for ourselves what The Book has to say. And so, "Thumping" is no longer necessary.
Deborah:
***As for the questions you ask Craig; I?m not up on details; but I do know the kids didn't go without food or housing - because while all that was going on, my son was there. The boys weren't affected in any noticeable way. The food was plentiful; and good, I?m told, tho sometimes a bit spicy. My son came home knowing how to cook a good meal,and with a taste for hot sauce. He even puts it on his popcorn now. He likes to go to the grocery now, b/c he wants to buy the food he ate and learned how to fix in MX.***
That sounds to me like Aparicio upheld his end of the VERBAL agreement, which was as Craig stated, "to provide room, board, and food services for the students of ALA."
and
"The payments (52K) were made in good faith with the expectation that ?ACADEMIA VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA? would deliever on their promises to provide room and board, along with food services to the students of ALA. ?ACADEMIA VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA? failed miserably to perform their verbal agreement to deliver stated promises.
According to you the teens had shelter and more than adequate food AND apparently learned some valuable life skills while there.
Which one of you is confused about what was or was not provided to ALA students.
And a question that has really been bugging me, like a knat that won't go away....
If Aparicio had no formal contract with Rogers and basically provided 'services for a fee'- how would he have access to ALA coffers to embezel funds?
Craig said, "It was also discovered that Josue Aparicio was embezzling funds from Abundant Life Academy of Utah, which was the reason ?ACADEMIA VIDA ABUNDANTE DEL LAGO CHAPALA? failed to deliever and perform their verbal agreement to provide room, board, and food services. Basically, we believe that he was taking the money meant for the students of Abundant Life Academy and giving it to Patricia Bettencort."
Does Craig have a hard-on for Bettencort or something? What was the agreement between Aparicio and Bettencort? What business is it of Craig's if Aparicio gave all the 'profit' to her?
He apparently was not giving money meant for the students to Bettencort, if what you claim is true. Roger's explanation is incoherent and reeks of dishonesty... in my opinion of course.
Anonymous:
Deb you are talking to Karen Z. Her son was at ALA.
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