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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2004, 07:30:00 PM »
CEDU has destroyed so many families and individuals.  I am very sorry for your losses and pain.  I do believe the people responsible for creating so much pain in our lives will suffer for their actions without us wishing it on them.  That's how I move forward.

CEDU has a cancer, and it's terminal.  The genetic component is Mel's psuedo philosophy and the trigger was greed.  They are breathing their last breaths now.  I for one don't expect any deathbed confessions.  I do think that you and I and everyone on this thread owe it to the many, many injured people out there to bring validation to their pain.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2004, 03:02:00 PM »
You all remember awhile back when Roseanne Bar was claiming recently recovered suppressed memories of sexual abuse by her father? I wonder now if that had anything to do with CEDU parent seminars? I know the husband, Arnold, is a devout and evangelistic practitioner of stepcraft.

Now I'm piqued.

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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2004, 03:25:00 PM »
I don't believe Rosanne attended any Parent Seminars.  She was the parent from hell to work with.  She did not buy into the program for herself, only for her daughters.  I did not work with Rosanne, but i worked with parents as famous and as difficult as her.  they put themselves way above the low-lifes at the school, though they don't mind dropping their kids off there for a couple years.
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2004, 04:45:00 PM »
Yep, Me too. I worked with CEOs of fortune 500 companies, famious lawyers, children of movie stars and famous musicians etc. I wouldn't put them down for not "buying in" or comming to the parent conferences to get those EST and LifeSpriing induced peak experiences and believe (wronly) that anything has changed to make them "even more perfect" than they already think they are - only and idiot would do that. But you are right. The kids got dropped of so the lousy parents could spend their time getting even richer and more grandiose and narcissistic than they already are instead of parenting their children. Which, BY THE WAY, is the whole problem in the first place. But, why change what needs to be changed when CEDU can spend two years sucking them for every penny they are willing to spend on that lesser priority - their kid and patronize them with music and love pointing out what selfless heroes they are for dumping their kids off at the SS.
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2004, 09:54:00 PM »
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"CEDU has destroyed so many families and individuals.  I am very sorry for your losses and pain.  I do believe the people responsible for creating so much pain in our lives will suffer for their actions without us wishing it on them.  That's how I move forward.



CEDU has a cancer, and it's terminal.  The genetic component is Mel's psuedo philosophy and the trigger was greed.  They are breathing their last breaths now.  I for one don't expect any deathbed confessions.  I do think that you and I and everyone on this thread owe it to the many, many injured people out there to bring validation to their pain.  "


We will move on. Just remember, please, that it is wrong to leave a stumbling stone in the road after it has tripped you. Others will become its victim. Your speaking out to me and others accomplishes that. I hope everyone will continue to speak out and prevent more suffering being imposed on children and other innocent human beings.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2004, 10:50:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-27 12:02:00, Antigen wrote:

"You all remember awhile back when Roseanne Bar was claiming recently recovered suppressed memories of sexual abuse by her father? I wonder now if that had anything to do with CEDU parent seminars? I know the husband, Arnold, is a devout and evangelistic practitioner of stepcraft.


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This is a good question. I can't say for sure, but I can say that during "the repressed memory hysteria" of the 80s and 90s, many people were victimized by bad therapists and their, so called, "repressed memories" including me.

A CEDU staff who was "no more than high school graduate" but, a very certifiable "trust counselor" pulled a repressed memory from my wife - of me raping her. Oh shit, a regular incident of 12 years prior, before we were married, and when we were living together madly in love, was quietly altered very imaginatively, and suddenly a dregged up memory of middle-of- the-night sex made me rapist.

It didn't matter that my wife was molested for years by a family member and she remembered every detail. It did'nt matter that we had been married for 11 years - happily. It didn't matter that I was a die-hard faminist fighting exploitation of females; What mattered was that this 12 year old false memory was now in her pocket, and all of her anger and self loathing could now be blamed on me and directed toward me.

Thus, I became the cause of her frigidity and I suddenly became "the miserable basterd that ruined her life." What actually was I? I was the miserable basterd that was saving her brother, the child molester, from having to take hell. Now he whole issue would be projected on to me. Wonderful, isn't it.

The sordid falsely constructed version of this "alleged" incident was then broadcast across the CEDU schools and into the community by CEDU staff and eventually a CEDU therapist.

Gosh, It is fun to have your marriage and reputation destroyed by memory reconstruction.  But, you know what they say, and I'm living proof of it; "What doesn't kill us" (does often) "make us stronger." Yes, strong enough to silence the real victimizers."

CEDU parents, this could happen to you if you don't get your kid out of there NOW.
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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2004, 08:26:00 PM »
Any other horror stories out there. Come on, you can post them annomously and tell all about being called whore abd slut in the propheets and having staff vicariously humping you. You can tell all about the Post Traumatic Stress this induced and the hospitalization that cedu caused you (annonomously).

Here is one from a CEDU parent a few years ago.  
It was posted on:

http://www.teenliberty.org/Liberated.htm

SAY IT
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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2004, 08:37:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-26 16:30:00, Anonymous wrote:


"CEDU has destroyed so many families and individuals.  I am very sorry for your losses and pain.  I do believe the people responsible for creating so much pain in our lives will suffer for their actions without us wishing it on them.  That's how I move forward.





CEDU has a cancer, and it's terminal.  The genetic component is Mel's psuedo philosophy and the trigger was greed.  They are breathing their last breaths now.  I for one don't expect any deathbed confessions.  I do think that you and I and everyone on this thread owe it to the many, many injured people out there to bring validation to their pain.  "




We will move on. Just remember, please, that it is wrong to leave a stumbling stone in the road after it has tripped you. Others will become its victim. Your speaking out to me and others accomplishes that. I hope everyone will continue to speak out and prevent more suffering being imposed on children and other innocent human beings."
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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2004, 02:45:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-30 08:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

"A Message to Teen Helpers,

This came from another post about saving kids from Mormons. A lovely thought for CEDU too.




Kids don't need good programs, they need good parents.  



Behold the Purity and the Holiness of those who hear, speak and obey the Words of God.



We have come for the program children, to free them from the enemy who threatens to destroy their innocence, their passion, their spirit.



Rejoice, the children are coming home.



It is the Word of God.
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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2004, 05:53:00 PM »
Threatening signs, tire slashed, truck with flames and loud pipes - two encounters, a call to 911. If my last light comes. make it "last light" for the schools. My wife and others will know who's hand came to pass.
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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2004, 08:09:00 PM »
I must say, this is music to my ears... I am a current student on a home visit, and I am thanking god for this long home visit my parents demanded, it gave me time to clear my head of the bullshit i've been fed.  I've been saying for a while that the whole corporate setup is one for failure, as well as a very bad setup to supposedly help teens...corporations by nature have one purpose...to make money for stockholders, period.  The whole thing is a big crock, i've been there longer than half the staff, and yea...I can't wait to see it all go down...Thank you all for your efforts at this site, it means a lot


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« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2004, 08:31:00 PM »
Hang in there. This too shall pass.

Being sleepy can impair someone's ability to do thier job.  People
can sleep at home and come to the job with sleepiness still in their system. The sleepiness can still be there long after the employee has slept. When someone is found to be sleepy on the job, they can claim that they went to sleep the night before.  The only solution to this problem is to ban employees from sleeping.

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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2004, 03:32:00 PM »
As always, heed Ginger's words. And go to work fighting against them whenever you are or get out. Tell the stories of sitting for weeks being brainwashed. We will "be waiting for you" and your voice. All of your voices. Spread the word. Do as all cult vets do. Cop out, when they pressure you, to some big issue and keep the other 1000 bigger issues in your underground. Develop a systematic and organized system to do this with trusted peers. This model was developed and perfected at BCA and is unbreakable.

All tyranny evokes underground resistance. This is the Achilles heel. They are Nazi and they can't dispute what they are doing - running a mind control camp using thought control. See Robert Lifton's book Thought Control and the Psychology of Totalism. Red the book "Snapping."

It is a pure function of nature and evolution to resist - The trick is to never stop - no matter what. Staff has no staying power. We students have no other choice, so we use our time well to break and unravel false trust in false and power hungry imposed socialization. Ralph Waldo Emerson said "Absolve to yourself and you shall have the suffarage of the world." Fake the loss of free will while you exersize it against them.
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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2004, 04:21:00 PM »
Fool them while they try to brainwash you. Look closely at the staff. They are all fools - all the way to the top.

These people are hungry for power precisely because they are weak.

They are hungry for CEDU knowledge, because they wouldn't know knowledge if it bit them.

Remember, no matter how much they PUNISH and PLAY WITH YOUR EMOTIONS, that they do it out of their own weakness and stupidity.

Play the Game while you use their own stupidity against them.

Without your loyalty to their tyranny, they have nothing. Fake it while you break it. Everyone does. Don't let them drug you unless you are really depressed or psychotic. Remember, CEDU will make you depressed and psychotic. It might be better to to the hospital than to end up killing yourself. If your parents dont get it - they will when they get the hospital bills

They will keep saying that they are kinder and gentler as a program - don't believe it parents. They are just better at hiding and doing thinks that whole teams will dispute ever happened. People like to save their own skin (income). The staff "buy in" because they will be punished if they don't. It comes down to lying to parents and themselves - that is why so many leave.
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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2004, 01:58:00 PM »
This is from another post by other people - had to get it to this post site. It explains why they remain in the red

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 CEDU has had some problems with the law that they don't reveal to parents. They have been cited for abuse of students, and the local county, San Bernardino, won't place any kids there. Local clinicians know how abusive CEDU is. The local medical clinic on the mountain there is very upset with them, too.

Mel Wasserman, the founder, was such a nut case, that we had to keep him away from parents when he visited. We would organize to keep him busy so they wouldn?t ruin everything by finding out what kind of person he really was. Can you believe it?!

I worked there. I saw how parents were ripped off. It is true that some kids needed "shock" treatment - gang bangers, and so forth. Some kids are literally putting their lives in peril with the stuff they are getting into. Almost anything would be better than some kid dying in a shootout.

However, I know that there is no THERAPY happening there. There are counselors with no formal psychological training. They do have real therapists there, but the school doesn?t want them there. They have them only because they won?t be paid by the school districts if they don?t, and it looks good to the parents. We were ?supposed? to do what the therapists said if there was a problem. That?s what we presented to the parents. It was a lie. We did what our supervisors told us to do. Frequently, it was abusive.

The school tried to get us to go to their "profeets" but we all refused. We knew it was inappropriate. In the "profeets" staff and kids are supposed to bare their souls, after hours of emotional abuse, telling every bad thing they did. If a kid couldn't come up with something terrible, he was shamed. I knew kids who lied and made up stuff just to get everyone off their backs.

One staff stands out - she was a complete s_ _t. Kids told me that in the profeets, she would talk about her promiscuity. She would scream and cry. Two kids AWOL'd later - they told me they saw her in a bar dancing with men like a s_ _t. They were shocked. They told me that they would have a terrible time believing anything she said. She had no formal training at all - she had been a receptionist at a real estate office when CEDU hired her. She keep being promoted at CEDU, because she was emotionally cruel. I'm sorry to say it - that's the way it was. When I quit, she was the head of the middle school. It sickens me to think that that ignorant, cruel, mean-spirited, s_ _t is responsible for all those kids and staff. Do I sound unreasonably biased? I tell you, this is as it is.

I kept complaining about a large braided rug on the floor in the reception office. I begged them to nail it down or remove it. The edge of it kept rolling up and people would trip on it. One night, a grandfather came into the building and tripped on that rug. He could not get up. When the paramedics came, they asked what had happened. I told them that he tripped on the rug and an administrator who was in the room quickly hushed me. I know that they did not hear me because of the noise and they never reacted to what I said. I was a coward and didn't repeat it. I learned later that he died in the hospital - he had suffered a broken pelvis. CEDU killed him. And I didn't say anything. I'm deeply ashamed.

This place stimulates so much fear. You just can't imagine. I am so glad for this opportunity to post. I went to work fearful and depressed. It got to the point where I had to stop driving my car on the way to work because I was crying so hard I couldn't see to drive safely.

The school broke all manner of laws regarding confidentiality. They gave the nurse far more power than she should have had. I knew about medical problems kids had that the nurse ignored as the kids were ?attention-seeking? or ?lying.? I had to go to the parents and make them promise to not tell the school I tipped them off. That was the only way I could be sure the kids got the medical attention they needed. The nurse was angry, negative, and controlling.

I also recall a tall, psychotic and homicidal middle-schooler. He told me about fantasizing murdering his roommates by holding pillows over their faces. I was alarmed and told the administration that I felt he was a threat to the other kids. They ignored me. He eventually was removed by his parents as they observed that he continued to be psychotic. Duh.

I felt that way because CEDU was such a horrible environment. They were traumatizing and abusing kids and I could do nothing. I hated being a part of that. Staff were traumatized ? I met people who were traumatized YEARS after leaving CEDU. They said that when people quit or are fired, they get the CEDU escort. Someone tells you go now and you can?t even pack up your stuff without someone hovering around, pressuring you to leave right now. This happened to me ? I was not even allowed to say goodbye to my kids. The school lied to me, lied to the kids, and lied to the parents. I wonder how many kids are traumatized by CEDU. I?ll never know. I just hate knowing that I was a small part of it. There are excellent school that are truly therapeutic. CEDU is not. God, it feels to good to get this off my chest. I have many, many, many more horrible stories.


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 These staff stories are absolutely horrifying and I feel for each and every one of you. How I wish parents could hear what goes on in these places from the perspective of counselors and therapists that no longer work in these hellish places. Why don't you all hook up and collaborate on a book? If you can get around the threat of lawsuits for "telling it like it is", and with the right literary agent, this book would be a bestseller right up there with the latest Steven King novel.
It's that nightmarish!!!! Anyway, thanks for sharing and trying to get the truth out there. Like Ginger always says, "it takes a 1,000 voices"
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