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Antigen:
Lie about what? How do you determine the kid is lying? Most of these places determine a kid is lying whenever they say anything they don't want to hear.




I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.  
-- Hunter S. Thompson

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Anonymous:
How does ANYONE get in trouble for lying?  Your statements are based on no facts, so i won't even bother disputing with you.

tommyfromhyde1:

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"How does ANYONE get in trouble for lying?  Your statements are based on no facts, so i won't even bother disputing with you."

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This is how one gets in trouble for lying at Hyde
(at least in 1976). Some kid is in trouble for
having a "bad attitude", so the Dean of Students
(then Henry Milton) gives the kid a shovel and
orders said kid to dig a 6'x6'x6' hole. Kid digs
said hole. Milton comes out with a tapemeasure
and pronounces the hole to be an inch too big
or an inch too small. Kid is LYING. So kid is
ordered to fill in hole and dig it again (and
again and again and again).
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James

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tommyfromhyde1:
Just to give you all a sense of some proportion,
I'm not saying that Hyde's "as bad" as some of
the sicker programs discussed on this board but
they're bad enough. Call 'em a 4 or 5 on the
abuse-o-meter with Straight,Inc or WWASPS as
a baseline 10. And if the kids don't brainwash
easy then there's always the threat of WWASPS
or wilderness which wasn't a threat back in '76.
 Also in retrospect maybe the guy who said that
work crew doesn't last as long as it used to may
be right, they seem to have other threats now.
In addition to the harsher program threat someone
way up the thread said something about "outpost"
which I never heard of then. If anyone can give
more detail about that please post.
 This link's been posted previously but it's way
down page now so... *bump*
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... 41107.html
Thanks Deborah, you found that one before I did.
The part about the seminars should sound familiar
to many here. I was once ripped to shreds in
seminar because I had come in ahead of another
unathletic kid who had a cold or something in
a cross country meet.
The gist of that was that I had unfairly taken
advantage of this kid's cold to avoid the cold
shower that was the lot of the last Hyde kid
across the line (usually me). We were running
against Phillips/Exeter and lost so there was
alot of acrimony anyway. Shame on Exeter and the
rest of the traditional boarding schools for
lending their hard won respectability to a
punitive boarding school like Hyde by playing
them in sports. Hyde's been known to punish kids
for losing at sports.  
No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the sources of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.
P. J. O'Rourke
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Oppositional Defiance:
I attended Hyde Woodstock from the years of 1999 to 2002 and I can attest that everything said about Hyde here is true. There are no embellishments. The truth is enough in this situation. The staff were incompetent, the teaching was inadaquete, well meaning teachers commonly became disgruntled and eventually left. Poor quality individuals would not leave, "bleeding" the school of anybody who would treat the children there decently year after year. The children there suffered from neglect and abuse from being left alone in a cruel beurocracy. It was like Oliver Twist. A child left in the Hyde School was basically left there to fend for him or herself. To truly succeed in Hyde meant to disregard information coming from teachers, peers, and all "morality" being pushed at you. To succeed, one would have to create a barrier between oneself and the rest of the "world". There was no other world but Hyde. It was isolated. Nothing came in and nothing went out. It was very hard sometimes for me. I was sent to this program after being sent to CEDU's ASCENT program. I wish I could kill some of these people who were in charge with a big M4 rifle sometimes. Anyway, Semper Fi, carry on.

O-P-P
(Yeah, you know me)

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