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Anonymous:
Why are people who don't believe that Elan was terrible or that they were abused at Elan labeled by you, and other people as "apologists"?
According to what you have said aren't they just people with a different opinion than yours who have a right. like you do, to express it?
Anonymous:
I'm having a hard time understanding that post...apologists is a Dan word...are you speaking to Dan? or are you speaking to the person who quoted Abbie Hoffman (me) because personally I dont think anyone was a victim of any crimes at Elan, and I spent 27 months exposed to all houses there. 82 to 84 (an Era which many claim were the worst years to be there)
Elan may have crossed the line in many ways...but I say so what, the kids who were there had it coming if you ask me.
Anonymous:
I was replying to this one.
"Think of it. People come to this country from all over the world for various reasons. Most of them come here because, for whatever reason, they think this country is better than wherever they came from. Tell someone from Kenya, Haiti, Colombia, Ireland, England or Canada something nice about their country or the political system, they'll either agree with you or maybe disagree pretty politely. Tell someone from Cuba what a really good and decent guy Castro is or a Jewish person how musinderstood Hitler was and you'll get a totally different response. But there are such people as NeoNazis and Fidel supporters, aren't there? Riddle me this, Anon, what brings you here? What is it that compels you Elan apologists to troll every public forum where Elan is discussion and perpetually insult, ridicule and threaten anyone who says anything negative about Elan? "
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2002-07-03 19:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
Why are people who don't believe that Elan was terrible or that they were abused at Elan labeled by you, and other people as "apologists"?
According to what you have said aren't they just people with a different opinion than yours who have a right. like you do, to express it?
--- End quote ---
Yes, they would be just people with a different opinion than mine. I don't label them apologists. I refer as apologists to people who go way out of their way to seek out any public discussion of Elan and then to constantly harass and defame and try to intimidate anyone who tells about the abuse that they witnessed and experienced.
BTW, quick search on the word "apologist" turns up over 51k hits. Dan, you must be a busy boy! `Course, it's far more likely Elan never was real big on education. And so these folks, believing steadfastly that good ol'e Joe gave them all the 'tools' they'd ever need in life, have never bothered to read enough to stumble accross this very common word.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=I ... =apologist
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Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
American P.O.W. 10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
Anonymity Anonymous
[ This Message was edited by: Antigen on 2002-07-05 14:43 ]
Anonymous:
This incident about Marty raping a child has been twisted way out of proportion.Marty never was charged for actually raping him.A friend of Marty's raped the boy.
Marty held the child down while his friend raped him.Marty was charged with attempted rape and conspiracy.
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