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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2002, 09:05:00 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2002, 10:52:00 PM »
Do you do anything besides be mean to people?
What a mean person you are. I wonder why.
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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2002, 11:49:00 PM »
NO I THINK ITS YOU WHO SUCKS DICK! YOU OMLY WISH YOU WERE 1/2 THE PERSON PETER IS GO SUCK ON THAT!
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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2002, 11:58:00 PM »
OH MY A TYPO( ONLY )WAS THE WORD DIDNT WANT PPL TO THINK I COULDNT SPELL LOL ELIZ
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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2002, 01:04:00 AM »
I don't know why you're so mean. You're always being mean. Why is that?
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« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2002, 09:53:00 PM »
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I don't know why you're so mean. You're always being mean. Why is that?

Good question. I notice that Elan descussions are a good deal more hostile than your average controversial discussion. Fights like this break out once in awhile in the Straight forums, but over here they're the norm. Same thing with the KIDS forums.

I think it may have something to do with the intensity of the program. KIDS had Miller Newton's full attention all focused on one relatively small group. Elan seems to have been among the most violent and hopeless gulags.

The only other open discussion forum that I know of that compares to the level of anger and abuse seen here is alt.law-enforcement in Usenet. If your browser's set up for it, you can hit that by clicking this http://dejanews.com to see what I mean.

Now, what might be the comonality here?
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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2002, 10:46:00 PM »
the norm kinda makes you wonder?
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« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2002, 11:34:00 PM »
The intensity of the program?!?! give me a break! the people argueing have been out of the program for 10 15 20+ years!



I suppose the fact that a former Elan/kids resident didnt change his underwear today has anything to do with a verbal reprimand they recieved in 1982?


"Free speech is the right to yell 'theatre' in a crowded fire"

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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2002, 07:18:00 PM »
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The intensity of the program?!?! give me a break! the people argueing have been out of the program for 10 15 20+ years!






I suppose the fact that a former Elan/kids resident didnt change his underwear today has anything to do with a verbal reprimand they recieved in 1982?


Think of it. People come to this country from all over the world for various reasons. Most of them come here because, for whatever reason, they think this country is better than wherever they came from. Tell someone from Kenya, Haiti, Colombia, Ireland, England or Canada something nice about their country or the political system, they'll either agree with you or maybe disagree pretty politely. Tell someone from Cuba what a really good and decent guy Castro is or a Jewish person how musinderstood Hitler was and you'll get a totally different response.

But there are such people as NeoNazis and Fidel supporters, aren't there? Riddle me this, Anon, what brings you here? What is it that compels you Elan apologists to troll every public forum where Elan is discussion and perpetually insult, ridicule and threaten anyone who says anything negative about Elan?
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« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2002, 09:55:00 PM »
Umm...read the next two lines as quoted.
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« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2002, 10:22:00 PM »
Why are people who don't believe that Elan was terrible or that they were abused at Elan labeled by you, and other people as "apologists"?

According to what you have said aren't they just people with a different opinion than yours who have a right. like you do, to express it?
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« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2002, 11:11:00 PM »
I'm having a hard time understanding that post...apologists is a Dan word...are you speaking to Dan? or are you speaking to the person who quoted Abbie Hoffman (me) because personally I dont think anyone was a victim of any crimes at Elan, and I spent 27 months exposed to all houses there. 82 to 84 (an Era which many claim were the worst years to be there)

Elan may have crossed the line in many ways...but I say so what, the kids who were there had it coming if you ask me.
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« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2002, 11:45:00 PM »
I was replying to this one.

"Think of it. People come to this country from all over the world for various reasons. Most of them come here because, for whatever reason, they think this country is better than wherever they came from. Tell someone from Kenya, Haiti, Colombia, Ireland, England or Canada something nice about their country or the political system, they'll either agree with you or maybe disagree pretty politely. Tell someone from Cuba what a really good and decent guy Castro is or a Jewish person how musinderstood Hitler was and you'll get a totally different response. But there are such people as NeoNazis and Fidel supporters, aren't there? Riddle me this, Anon, what brings you here? What is it that compels you Elan apologists to troll every public forum where Elan is discussion and perpetually insult, ridicule and threaten anyone who says anything negative about Elan?  "
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« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2002, 05:27:00 PM »
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Why are people who don't believe that Elan was terrible or that they were abused at Elan labeled by you, and other people as "apologists"?


According to what you have said aren't they just people with a different opinion than yours who have a right. like you do, to express it?




Yes, they would be just people with a different opinion than mine. I don't label them apologists. I refer as apologists to people who go way out of their way to seek out any public discussion of Elan and then to constantly harass and defame and try to intimidate anyone who tells about the abuse that they witnessed and experienced.  


BTW, quick search on the word "apologist" turns up over 51k hits. Dan, you must be a busy boy! `Course, it's far more likely Elan never was real big on education. And so these folks, believing steadfastly that good ol'e Joe gave them all the 'tools' they'd ever need in life, have never bothered to read enough to stumble accross this very common word.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=I ... =apologist



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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2002, 09:51:00 AM »
This incident about Marty raping a child has been twisted way out of proportion.Marty never was charged for actually raping him.A friend of Marty's raped the boy.
Marty held the child down while his friend raped him.Marty was charged with attempted rape and conspiracy.
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