Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Elan School
Marty Kruglik number and address
SyN:
you know what n dog i do actually beleive that (in my oppinion).
By Demons Be Driven:
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On 2003-11-19 10:26:00, Marc RosenBlow wrote:
"Hello elan school how may i direct your call?
Yes Can I please speak to Martin Kruglik
Who shall I say is calling
John Richards from trouble teen magizine
Please hold while I direct your call
Marty answers:
Hello this is Martin can I help you?
Yes marty I would like to know why you think taping tampons to a 13 year old girls head soaked in ketchup is considered in your eye's thearupitic?
And who may I ask is calling?
This is John Richards from trouble teen magizine
There is a magizine that is actaully for troubled teens available to the public?
Yes
What do you publish in this magizine John?
Look Marty I'll ask the question's here, and I want to know why you feel taping tampons soaked in ketchup to a 13 yard old girls head is considered theaputic?
If you are refereing to the way Elan was run back many years ago I really have no comment or recolition of it.
So you are denying this ever took place?
I'm not denying anything John, it seems like to me you are investigating matters that occured a few decades ago from which I was not employed at the time.
How long have you worked at elan Martin?
I have been here for around 9 years.
Oh really, then why is it there are alot of other people out there that say different?
And whom are you refering to John?
I'm sorry Martin, but tha is priveleged information.
Priveleged information huh?Well then I would have to say you calling up here and asking about students treatments is also priveledge information.
Well Martin, did I at any time metion of request former students names? I don't think so.
Just out of curiosity John, were you the little bugger that called up here this morning asking Jeffery stupid questions?
Jeffery?Who's Jeffery? Would be another one of your cromies employed with you that tapes ketchup soaked tampons to 13 year old girl's heads?
Look John I see where this conversation is going and this is must likely nothing but a joke to you.
Ummmmm No martin, I don't find it amusing taping tampon's soaked in Ketchup to littel girl's head's.
Okay John if you wish to interview me on how things were run in the pat I would be more then gladly sit down with you over a cup of coffee or something, i really don't feel comfortable nor do I have the time to discuss what went on here at the school in the past.
So you are not denying it now Marty?
No John I'd rather meet you one on one and have this conversation done in a more professional manner.
Well Martin. I'm afraid that is not possible considering we are on 2 different time zones here.I usually conduct all conversations via phone call's or internet.Thats the beauty of telephone's and computer's, we can find out and conduct interviews in the comfort of our office's without havin to travel all around the world.Geese Marty you make it sound like you are living in the 18th century back in the cowboy's and Indian's era.
I dont know who I'm talking to first of all, for all I know you could be some hotshot lawyer looking to incriminate the school for your own personal gain.
Marty I told you who I am, I'm John Richards and I'm with the Troubled Teen Magizine.
Okay John.
Marty care to comment on allegations of child molestation that has been made public about you?
If you are refering to some of those anti-elan site's that are out on the net it seems to me that there is someone out there that hold's grudges against me and the school and are truly a sick individual.I have never performed any lewd act on any under age person, let's just get that straight.
Oh so but you have performed lewd acts on people that were of age? Am I getting this all correct?
John, when you are part of a school that focusses on teens that are emtional disturbed inviduals. heavy thearopy is needed to help those peple out.There is many individuals that go through our school and are unsucessful on changing their lives and allowing us to help them.In turn, there will always be someone out there rebeling against us because we tried to get in their minds and see what was going on, wait let me rephrase that, we try to help change their thought process so that they can live a successful productive life when they leave our school.
Oh so you brainwash teens in other words?
If you want to call it that John then so be it.We try to help them live better lives.
Marty, you mentioned that there are alot of people that have went through your program and were unsucessful and now hold a grudge.So why is it you advertise your website "Elan School" having such a high success rate?
John,I am not at liberty to discuss Elan's personal growth stastic's with you, if you like you could call back and speak with the school's adminisrator and perhaps he could help you with answering most of your questions.
I didn't call you Martin to discuss stastic's, I wanted to discuss your idea and methods that you consider treatments.I consider them abuse and I do speak for everyone else out there on the internet.The reason I called you is I have read alot of unethical treatments that you carried out on trouble teens in the past and you are avoiding mos of my questions and lying about your employment with Elan.
I'm lying about my employment John?How am I lying to you about my employment?
Marty you told me that you only have worked at Elan for 9 years, that would put you back to the year of 1994.
Yes, I started working at Elan in 1994 John.
Then why is it your name was mentioned about the Skakel incident which occurreed way back before 1994?From my understanding you have been employed with Elan corp, since the 70's.
John I went through the elan program back in the early 70's and graduated.I briefly worked part time at Elan after I graduated 4 years later, but that was only part time and wasn't for very long.
Aout how long did you work for Elan after 4 years of graduating the program Martin?
Not very long John, maybe 6 months.I went back to school to get a degree and worked in another state helping out troubled teens?
Might I ask you what other places you have worked at ?
It's really no concern to you John.The point is what ever you have heard or have read about me whether its in the newspaper or the internet, chances are none of it is true and none of it can and will not be proved in any court's.
Court's? Why all the sudden are you sounding so concerened about court's Marty? Sounds like to me you have alot to hide form me.Are there people out there trying to take you to court Marty?
Look John, I have alot of things I have to get down today and this phone conversation is taking up my time a little too much.If you want to come to the school and meet with me face to face and sit down and interview me it can be arranged, otherwise I would appreciate it if you would not call her anymore to seek out stories for your magizine.We the staff at elan are caring individuals and we provide the best in care that is available today unlike other school and insititution's.Care that was provided 3 decades ago at Elan was very different and since then has been improved.So that is all I have to say to you John.
Ok Martin, I will document that you avoided most of my question's and denying working at elan during the seventies, or wait, was it only for 6 months as you have stated?I'm sure that there will be alot of former resident's that will be quite interested in what you had to say today.
Ok John you have a nice day......
Marty hangs up at this point.Well for those of you that went through the program and knew Marty I guess you can be the judges on how much he was lying to me on the phone.Far as I know this son of a bitch has been working at elan since the early 70's.
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That is too funny man!!!You really talked to him?Marty was the brains behind all the abuse learning experiences that were enforced.HE use to sit in his office all day thinking up new cruel punishments for the kids."
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Wow that was too funny, I can visualize Marty sweating alot and shaking while those questions being asked.
Marty is lying, he was there in 87, I can vouch for that.
By Demons Be Driven:
I never understood what exactly Kruglik's role was at Elan, some say he was a senior director, others said he was a floating director. I think he was just an overall asshole.
Someone posted about how he would walk in on GM's and add his 2 cents, that was so true.I see alot of anonyous posters who posted about Marty here and some of the stories posted here about him are very true, I think I know who the posters are from being in Elan with them.
There was some crazy shit that went down back in the days, all the stories about Marty having gay sex in the school house was a great laugh but I don't think any of it's true, someone was having lots of fun.
JNAILZ:
Is that a real conversation? Marty was there in the early 90's when I was there. He commuted from Peabody mass., or so he said. He was there every weekday and even came to our basketball games. If he didnt work there why was he there everyday for my two years. I have no recolection of him being abusive or mean during my time, he actually seemed like a pretty good guy. I cannot speak for what happened before or after, but he was always good to me. But if that is a real conversation I wonder what he is hidding, and everyone else whould too.
By Demons Be Driven:
--- Quote ---On 2004-08-23 20:55:00, JNAILZ wrote:
"Is that a real conversation? Marty was there in the early 90's when I was there. He commuted from Peabody mass., or so he said. He was there every weekday and even came to our basketball games. If he didnt work there why was he there everyday for my two years. I have no recolection of him being abusive or mean during my time, he actually seemed like a pretty good guy. I cannot speak for what happened before or after, but he was always good to me. But if that is a real conversation I wonder what he is hidding, and everyone else whould too."
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Well for one he lied about the Skakel case. And back in the 70's and 80's he was a very abusive little bastard and dished out some very cruel and unusual punishment.
What's funny is someone wrote on this site that Marty is a butler for the Ricci family. Well it almost seemed that way to me, he followed Joe around and obeyed Joe's every command, he probably even wiped Joe Ricci's ass for him.
Luckily for you Marty decided not to fuck with you, he fucked with alot of peeps in my time and enjoyed seeing them pay for their alleged wrong actions.
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