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« on: March 01, 2004, 06:01:00 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2004, 07:51:00 PM »
Some things never change.  I remember when the Director at RMA sucked face with a kitchen staff at a Christmas party while his pregnant wife was sleeping in their hotel room.  You may be too young to remember the CEDU "good old boys" club.  CEDU executives have a nice plushy condo in Sandpoint, paid for by parents, of course.  It is used for nasty parties.  I remember a nice invitation to this place by one horny CEDU Executive from the past.  I should have taken it - maybe I would have got a raise.  What a joke.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2004, 08:09:00 PM »
what is a Joke is that youdo not realise that CEDU saved your liFe.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2004, 09:26:00 PM »
Even if that where true, which is questionable, so what? This is such a hallmark of groupthink.

I've been very, very nice today. I helped an old lady accross the street on the way to give blood after volunteering a few hours to feed the homeless. So who should complain if I just haul off and cold cock some asshole just because I don't like the way he parts his hair? I saved lives all morning, for Christ's sake! Doesn't that give me cart blanch to be an asshole in the afternoon?

Doesn't follow through very well logically, does it?

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2004, 01:26:00 AM »
CEDU saved my life?  Not hardly.  I have been suffering tramatic stress sydrome for the past few years because of my experieces working at CEDU.  The only thing worse than being a student at CEDU is being an employee. Antigen knows what I'm talking about.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2004, 02:27:00 PM »
Indeed I do. And, lest anyone miss the point, let me extend an invitation to all former and current staff of TC facilities around the world to join in the discussion. All's forgiven, come home!

All I ask is equal freedom.  When it is denied, as it always is, I take it anyhow.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2004, 03:00:00 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2004, 04:06:00 PM »
Your story is frightening.  I too experienced the verbal and emotional intimidation and abuse as a CEDU employee.  It drove me head -on to my darkest most destructive nature.  I reverted to the behavior of my youth, specifically sexual acting out and drug use.  I was smart enough not to succumb to the sexual goings on at the schools.  I carefully selected my prey elsewhere to keep the illusion of respectability.  
Drugs, however, is another story.  I was using drugs on a regular basis with one of the school directors.  It turns out there are very few CEDU employees who do not abuse drugs or at the very least alcohol.  The exeption would be the religous/Mormon group who abuse power instead.
CEDU is power and disfunction run amuk.  The screaming and yelling you talk about permeates every aspect  because the staff are  void of any other tools to use.  And the more they scream and yell the more ANGRY they get and the more screaming and yelling they do.  CEDU teaches screaming and yelling as a way to express yourself.  They suggest that screaming and yelling releases anger.  BULLSHIT!  Employees leave work and scream and yell at their families, they scream and yell and their co-workers, and they especially scream and yell at frightened, confused and fragile teenagers.  This is not healthy and that is why every descent therapist that gets hired by CEDU is fired or quits.
I have come a long way to put my life back together.  I did not endure as long as you (Roy) did.  I did battle a life threatening illness that I believe was brought on by stress.  I'm in remission now, I'm off drugs, and I'm in a healthy, loving, committed relationship, (no more looking for Mr. Goodbar.)  
CEDU employees are jaded.  The emotional growth brainwashing subscribed by CEDU is being executed by uneducated, unsophisticated, and unethical individuals who then become victims of the process.  The scariest are the employees who have been doing this for ten or twenty years!
Someone should start a program to deprogram CEDU victims.  Now there's a worthy cause!
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2004, 10:47:00 AM »
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Then they brought in a school student into their "sex contract."


Roy, can you please translate the term "contract" in this context into regular, outlander English? I think I get the gist of it. Do you know anything about the etimology of this particular linguistic device? I think it's the same as at Elan.

I tried not to work for, you know, anyone who ate children with their bare hands. I won't pretend that I was ideologically consistent.


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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2004, 03:11:00 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2004, 05:48:00 PM »
I was a prostitute for CEDU.  I screwed parents, they paid CEDU, CEDU paid me, and CEDU screwed me.

I feel very badly for every student who attended CEDU because of me.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2004, 10:29:00 PM »
CEDU has had some problems with the law that they don't reveal to parents. They have been cited for abuse of students, and the local county, San Bernardino, won't place any kids there. Local clinicians know how abusive CEDU is. The local medical clinic on the mountain there is very upset with them, too.

Mel Wasserman, the founder, was such a nut case, that we had to keep him away from parents when he visited. We would organize to keep him busy so they wouldn?t ruin everything by finding out what kind of person he really was. Can you believe it?!

I worked there. I saw how parents were ripped off. It is true that some kids needed "shock" treatment - gang bangers, and so forth. Some kids are literally putting their lives in peril with the stuff they are getting into. Almost anything would be better than some kid dying in a shootout.

However, I know that there is no THERAPY happening there. There are counselors with no formal psychological training. They do have real therapists there, but the school doesn?t want them there. They have them only because they won?t be paid by the school districts if they don?t, and it looks good to the parents. We were ?supposed? to do what the therapists said if there was a problem. That?s what we presented to the parents. It was a lie. We did what our supervisors told us to do. Frequently, it was abusive.

The school tried to get us to go to their "profeets" but we all refused. We knew it was inappropriate. In the "profeets" staff and kids are supposed to bare their souls, after hours of emotional abuse, telling every bad thing they did. If a kid couldn't come up with something terrible, he was shamed. I knew kids who lied and made up stuff just to get everyone off their backs.

One staff stands out - she was a complete s_ _t. Kids told me that in the profeets, she would talk about her promiscuity. She would scream and cry. Two kids AWOL'd later - they told me they saw her in a bar dancing with men like a s_ _t. They were shocked. They told me that they would have a terrible time believing anything she said. She had no formal training at all - she had been a receptionist at a real estate office when CEDU hired her. She keep being promoted at CEDU, because she was emotionally cruel. I'm sorry to say it - that's the way it was. When I quit, she was the head of the middle school. It sickens me to think that that ignorant, cruel, mean-spirited, s_ _t is responsible for all those kids and staff. Do I sound unreasonably biased? I tell you, this is as it is.

I kept complaining about a large braided rug on the floor in the reception office. I begged them to nail it down or remove it. The edge of it kept rolling up and people would trip on it. One night, a grandfather came into the building and tripped on that rug. He could not get up. When the paramedics came, they asked what had happened. I told them that he tripped on the rug and an administrator who was in the room quickly hushed me. I know that they did not hear me because of the noise and they never reacted to what I said. I was a coward and didn't repeat it. I learned later that he died in the hospital - he had suffered a broken pelvis. CEDU killed him. And I didn't say anything. I'm deeply ashamed.

This place stimulates so much fear. You just can't imagine. I am so glad for this opportunity to post. I went to work fearful and depressed. It got to the point where I had to stop driving my car on the way to work because I was crying so hard I couldn't see to drive safely.

The school broke all manner of laws regarding confidentiality. They gave the nurse far more power than she should have had. I knew about medical problems kids had that the nurse ignored as the kids were ?attention-seeking? or ?lying.? I had to go to the parents and make them promise to not tell the school I tipped them off. That was the only way I could be sure the kids got the medical attention they needed. The nurse was angry, negative, and controlling.

I also recall a tall, psychotic and homicidal middle-schooler. He told me about fantasizing murdering his roommates by holding pillows over their faces. I was alarmed and told the administration that I felt he was a threat to the other kids. They ignored me. He eventually was removed by his parents as they observed that he continued to be psychotic. Duh.

I felt that way because CEDU was such a horrible environment. They were traumatizing and abusing kids and I could do nothing. I hated being a part of that. Staff were traumatized ? I met people who were traumatized YEARS after leaving CEDU. They said that when people quit or are fired, they get the CEDU escort. Someone tells you go now and you can?t even pack up your stuff without someone hovering around, pressuring you to leave right now. This happened to me ? I was not even allowed to say goodbye to my kids. The school lied to me, lied to the kids, and lied to the parents. I wonder how many kids are traumatized by CEDU. I?ll never know. I just hate knowing that I was a small part of it. There are excellent school that are truly therapeutic. CEDU is not. God, it feels to good to get this off my chest. I have many, many, many more horrible stories.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2004, 12:48:00 AM »
These staff stories are absolutely horrifying and I feel for each and every one of you.  How I wish parents could hear what goes on in these places from the perspective of counselors and therapists that no longer work in these hellish places.  Why don't you all hook up and collaborate on a book?  If you can get around the threat of lawsuits for "telling it like it is", and with the right literary agent, this book would be a bestseller right up there with the latest Steven King novel.
It's that nightmarish!!!!  Anyway, thanks for sharing and trying to get the truth out there. Like Ginger always says, "it takes a 1,000 voices"

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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2004, 04:28:00 PM »
I would love to collaborate, and I know a therapist who worked there who would. However, the threat of lawsuit is so scary. I hate this. I feel like I don't have any testosterone! They are scary, man!

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"These staff stories are absolutely horrifying and I feel for each and every one of you.  How I wish parents could hear what goes on in these places from the perspective of counselors and therapists that no longer work in these hellish places.  Why don't you all hook up and collaborate on a book?  If you can get around the threat of lawsuits for "telling it like it is", and with the right literary agent, this book would be a bestseller right up there with the latest Steven King novel.

It's that nightmarish!!!!  Anyway, thanks for sharing and trying to get the truth out there. Like Ginger always says, "it takes a 1,000 voices"



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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2004, 05:14:00 PM »
Sad,
I went to CEDU back in 1991. I was 15. It was hell - I still am traumatized by everything that went on there. The raps, the propheets, the staff, and the kids - the anger, the fear, and the total feeling of abandonment by your parents. I split from that shit hole six months after being there. This place is scary. If you love your kids = DONT SEND THEM THERE. These people are good at only one thing - leaving an impression on your life - a very bad one. One and only positive thing about this place - the scenery is awesome! The pit by the fireplace is cool.

But this place leaves you empty and feeling used and displayed and truly violated.

CEDU CAN BLOW IT OUT THEIR ASS.... =)
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