Time to recap. There have been some fascinating claims right here in this thread that unfortunately, when you asked for verification, the christians do a duck and run. Let's list a few
1) It's all history. If you do your homework you will see that what you call fairy tales actually coincides with historical events. (an asssumption that if a historical event is mentioned, it validates the supernatural...a dubious unfactual claim)
2) in response to a query that "there are no historical contemporary references to Jesus during his lifetime, we get from Scott "how many do you want", ( then we get ZERO. NONE.)
3) The bible is one of the only most historically correct writings of our time and this is proven. (patently false the bible contains contradictory accounts of hundreds,if not thousands of stories, often in the same sections.)
4) they have actually found part of the ark (No details, no validation, no pictures, no citations, just a random declaration)
5)Carl Sagan said there was a "giant hand" guiding the universe. (when asked to produce the quote, a no show)
6)The book "the bible code was relevant" ( a proven fraud)
7)To know evil is to know God. Simple as that.(no it isn't, but thanks for the logic lesson)
:cool: brains and pride can be dangerous things in the Kingdom of God(one of my favorites..hey, check your brain at the door...your in heaven baby!)
9)Greg, my question to you is why do you insult people and try and hurt people (when all greg (me) did was question the outrageous statements that christians generally get away with. Say something be prepared to back it up)
10)I could type in answers to some of your questions that I found some answers to but, I decided not to(oh boy, here we go, got the answer but you can't have it. How credible is that?)
11)The Bible also says that when talking with unbelievers it will be like you talk another language they cannot understand( in other words, anything you say is valid, we just don't understand...hmmm)
12)Sadom and Gamorrah have been discovered burief under volcanic ash via satelite verified by NASA no less!!( a precursory research of this "fact" indicates it was a "religious scholar" not a scientist and certainly not NASA, and it is an interpretation largely dismissed as kooky in the world of science.)
This is just the start and is a window into the mind of the credulous. We also have the Shroud of tourin, the casket of jesus, face on mars, the stain of virgin mary, weeping icons, faith healers, and the other fraudulent religious relics and persons that shows up from time to time. They have ALL been proven to be fraudulent on one level or the other. This evidence is dismissed or overlooked and people just damn choose to believe the supernatural because it feels good to explain away their death in wonderous terms.
With christianity, you never die. The people who questioned your belief burn for eternity! What a deal!
With Muslims, you get to fuck virgins for eternity! What a deal! (unless you are the virgin and get sentenced to eternity with one of these goat herders)
With other religions, you get to do it again with improvement over and over! fucked up your life? Do it again next time better! No problem! Kind of the religious equivalent of the movie "groundhog day.
Manwhile, my daughters science book from her Baptist school clearly states that the bible is infallible and ALL EVIDENCE AND SCIENCE THAT TENDS TO DISCREDIT THE BIBLE MUST BE DISMISSED! THIS IS THE BASIS FOR 'CREATION SCIENCE'. THIS IS NOT SCIENCE, IT IS ANCIENT RELIGION THAT PEOPLE WITH A RELIGIOUS AGENDA ARE SHOVING DOWN OUR COLLECTIVE THROATS. THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP THOUGHT AND PROGRESS, TRYING TO REVERSE SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY,
Well, creation science terrorists, the earth is round, it is old, There is no 'firmament between heaven and earth, light did not exist before the stars, there was no flood that covered the earth, there is no evidence "giants" ever walked the earth, there is no evidence a virgin was impregnated by god, there is no credible evidence for supernatural beings including gods, goblins, devils, ghosts, angels,demons, vampires, or other such scary stuff.
this is so basic, so ancient, and so telling of our weak scared state as a species. A little grey matter is a dangerous thing, but not in heaven as anon says...right here on earth!
