On 2005-01-18 21:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
am not sure who asked me the questions about the subs but u know i have been doing some thinking and i had the discussion with some other friends of mine. Why would brain washing good stuff and positive affirmations be a bad thing?? well it's good that they were positive things just i think that any type of brain washing taken to that extreme is unhealthy along with the sleep deprivation that went with it. It was terible. I remember being the sub monitor not being able to barely lift a finger in the morning because i was so tired my brain wasn't even functioning right.
I've asked about it. Honestly, a couple of people have. Back when the whoamidiscovery.com website was wide open, I wandered around a bit and invited a few friends to do the same.
We read a bunch of the reports that you guys did on each other. To a lot of us, those looked just exactly like what we called OBs (observations). In our program, Straight, when we got to the highest level before graduation, we had to write obs on lower phasers every day.
The subliminals seemed suspicious for a couple of reasons. If you put together the timeframes that ya'll talk about, it's obvious that nobody was getting enough sleep. If you really want to addle someone's brain, the best way to do that is to mess w/ their sleep in the wee hours, early in the morning. That's when most people get their best REM sleep. The subs looked to me like a good way to intrude on that.
Another way to keep people well off balance is to press constant contradiction on them. In our program, whenever someone was getting an ass kicking--either right there in the room where we could see (if we broke the rule and looked) or in the next room where you could only hear the yelling and banging--staff would have us sing cheerful little nursery rhymes at the top of our lungs. There is nothing quite like a couple of group renditions of Zippety-Do-Dah sung fast and loud over the screams of a kid getting their ass kicked on the floor next to you.
Here's the creepy part. We pulled it off! Unlike Whitmore, our parents were at least as close as the parking lot twice a day and inside the building twice a week. They saw us every day once we made 2nd phase. And we had them, and in many cases ourselves, thoroughly convinced that there was just nothing goin' on in there but cheerfullness and positivity. It was against the rules to be negative! If you were negative, why you might get confronted by group (purely out of love, of course). And this could go on for hours and hours if you did't catch yourself and play it right!
The way the subs have been described in the context of some of what else has been described reminds me of that aspect of the thing.
The other thing that bothers me about it is that it's obvious that you kids are placed in authority over other kids and required to enforce these rather unusual (to say the least!) program policies on each other.
I hope everybody reading this understands that kids are kids and that there are damned good reasons why we don't allow them to vote, hold public office, enter into binding contracts, etc. And why we give everyone a clean slate, by default, at the age of majority.
If any of you are afraid to talk about what goes on there because you think you're responsible, think again. The adults are responsible. You kids are in the process of becoming adults. We all understand that. I'm not saying you're the same as 10 year olds or anything. But if Mark and Cheryl have you thinking that if you tell you'll all be in some trouble, that's just bull!
They'll be in some deep shit because they're adults who ought to know better. You guys are just doing what you're told and conditioned to believe is right.
Oh, and BTW, I understand that the Whitmore is only licensed as a B&B at the moment and that your parents are paying good money for your stay there. I think you ought to tell the Sudweeks to rattle some pots and pans and bring you breakfast in your rooms!
Emotions rule the world; Is it any wonder that it's so mucked up?!
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