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Whitmore Academy in Utah?
chrisgentile:
Hi,
first of all... in regards to anonymous not believing that over half of the kids here werent transported..
I myself came alone straight from a WWASP program. I was dropped off at the airport with a trash bag and a ticket to Utah. My mom had them give me a note telling me what was going on, and I trusted her. I flew from Syrracuse to Chicago, and to be honest I almost didn't get on the plane. After speaking to my mom from the airport in Chicago I decided that I needed to get on the plane and give it a chance. Sometimes kids can realize how important their decisions are. Lots are here to recieve the help they want. Thats why things are different around here.
In fact, the kid who started this whole thing came with his Grand Ma and his parents if I remember correctly. All of our most recent kids came with their parents.
In regards to the 3 kids who left. They did not leave by their own will. They wanted to stay, one girl in particular ran from her mother (whom has been subject to child abuse claims 3 times) Her mother drug her out by her hair and told her: "they dont care about you!"
Talk about free will.
Chris
chrisgentile:
To be more specific... the last 4 kids to enter all came with their parents.
I'm sorry, but this is not WWASP. Thre is no OP or isolation rooms or intervention/worksheets.
chrisgentile:
my friend carl, whom i was at ivy ridge with, asked me to post this message for those who are interested.
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My name is Carl Milliken and I am writing this to let you know what the Whitmore Academy is really like. In these past few weeks many people have been making many false accusations about us. I have been here in Utah with Mark and Cheryl for these past six months. In these six months I have not seen any cases of child abuse. Nobody here has been treated in anyway that would harmed the students in anyway. Not physically or emotionally. As a student here we have nothing but love for each other. For all of the parents that are posting or feeling anything negative about the Whitmore Academy I really wish that you guys would get your facts strait. You guys are only hearing what you want. Why don?t you listen to the 40 kids here that have nothing but the truth to say about this place? The accusations here about the child abuse are completely untrue. This all started because of a kid who acted like a complete idiot had the cops called on him. When the cops came he swung at them. Did you know that? And then the next night he runs to the cops claiming child abuse. Did you know that this kid?s father as well as mother is supporting us because he knows how his son is. Since then yes a few of the kids have been taken home by their parents. One of those kids parents want her back because they know what this place is about. Mark and Cheryl would also want her back. The state won?t allow it. The other two kids fought to stay here. One particular girl who was only 12 ran back into the house before getting drug out by her mother. The girl let us know in a group that we had to try to guide her and help her through her problems that her mother did abuse her. I really believe that her mother was so scared that she was letting the truth out, that she had to get her daughter out to make us look like the ?bad guys?. Her mother really does not know what she is talking about. I was a former student at a WWASP program, and I seen what abuse is. I did not talk to my parents for the 6 months that I was there. I did not get medical treatment that I needed. I still have a rash on my arm because they ignored my need there. I watched the kids there get restrained. I have seen the scars on the boys there. I watched several kids there abused physically as well as emotionally. I have been verbally abused as well as physically abused at Ivy Ridge myself. Though I was never restrained, I was not taken to the bathroom for long periods of time, when I was in intervention. As a result I had to grab 2 water bottles and pee in them in front of whoever cared to look in. I know what abuse is. I watched personally another student here at the Whitmore named Chris get abused physically while he was at Ivy Ridge with me. When I wrote letters to my parents about what happened they never got them. If you guys are so worried about kids at programs who are getting abused in any way why don?t you check out WWASP? Is this world so focused on people not succeeding that when they do, they want to bring them down? Is it hard for people to realize that there is actually a place that works? Does it bother you guys to know that these people who have given there lives to help children for the last 30 years are actually helping us. That there own personal kids have given up there childhood so that there parents could help other kids who need it. Why is the state involved here, when there is a WWASP program in the same state where I know kids are really being abused. I know they are, and I am saying it now. I am saying the same stuff that the kid who ran to the cops said about us about another place. Why are they not doing anything about my claims. Is it because the State building is located within walking distance to us, or because there is no magnetic doors to walk through. I really think that you guys should be in support of a place that is actually helping kids. If you are really that worried about kids you will do something about the WWASP programs. I know this place has changed my life for the positive. Why are you not listening to us who know what is going on. I am not assuming anything. These are the facts. I encourage you guys to get the facts before posting lies. This is all I have to say for now. I will continue to post more as the lies happen. Thank you for all of you guys who know the truth and are continuing to support us here at the Whitmore. We are thankful for you and hope that you will continue to stick with us as we go through this trial.
Carl Milliken
Antigen:
I don't think anyone's said that Whitmore is worse than, or even as bad as, WWASP. In fact, it sounds to me a whole lot like The Seed. Many former Seed group members have come away w/ little or no damage from all that, though some have been harmed profoundly.
I have to wonder about the other side of the story about the girl who refused to leave w/ her mother. I know a few people who The Seed (Art, Shelly and Libby) turned against their own families temporarily or permanently.
They didn't do it by way of violent physical punishment, but by emotional and psychological manipulation.
As for the kid who slugged the cop, I almost did that once too. Turned out I didn't have to. But I had left Straight and hitchhiked to my brother's house in Georgia. A few nights later, my mother showed up, uninvited, in the middle of the night at my bedside w/ a couple of other program parents. Essentially, they tried to kidnap me. So my brother called the cops. Turned out that, in Georgia, 17 is the default age of emancipation so he wasn't going to make me go w/ my mother and her 'friends'. But I was fully prepared to slug the nice officer w/ all my might in order to draw assault charges and force him to arrest me had he called it the other way.
I wasn't routinely physically abused at Straight, either. In fact, I had a very hard time for a number of years even articulating just what was so bad about the whole thing. It was all psyche/emotional stuff that any kid would have a hard time understanding or describing.
When he [Califano] claims that the voters of Arizona and California did not know what they were voting for when they supported the two initiatives, he reminds me of the way Serbia's President Slobodan Milosevic reacted to recent election results in that country.
-- George Soros -- Sunday, February 2 1997; Page C01 The Washington Post
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Anonymous:
As for the story regarding the 12 year old girl who was drug out by her mother, there is another side to that story as well. She has diagnosed RAD and has been prone to lying especially regarding abuse charges(the reason she went to the Whitmore in the first place!) and each of the charges mentioned have been cleared as FALSE CLAIMS. I'm afriad that these kids are getting as much misinformation as they think we are.
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