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Matt C. Hoffman:
Hi Ajax, I read this the other day the Pathocracy of the US , reckon shortly after you put it up . Pretty intense reading - It bothers me- you know I am not prone to conspiracy theories, like to keep it sorta grounded , and by all means please I am not saying you are - or anyone is but my God that paper by Mr. Silver it was pretty intense .
Our gov't has done some pretty shitty things - maybe it is more like there are some folks in Gov't that have done some pretty nasty and highly illegal things to guide -maybe more so direct the way things that certain folks want for this country to control or learn how to control the masses .
I mean the whole cocaine for money to buy guns under Reagans watch - shoot put crack everywhere and no one was held accountable - And it was al little newspaper in California -I want to say the Sacramento Bee or the Mercury ( cant remember which that exposed the shenanigans) that put that into the masinstream public eye - and Oliie North gets a television show.
shakes head it just blows my teeny tiny mind -
I can see it very easily- for example the corruption in the state of Maine that allowed a Elan ( call a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel ) a criminal enterprise , and the scams that Ricci ran - besides Elan -like out right using children's social security numbers and creating false w-2 - saying that he paid them to work at his race track - Scarborough Downs which they did , but the catch was they didn't get a dime, they got to get out of his child abuse houses for the day ,and mingle with outside people which any child would have gladly said please take me I'll work for nothing - if you know what I mean - I am not sure how many years this went on but he would then be able to defraud the IRS by declaring that these children were paid - and this is really coming to light children now adults are looking at their sociasl security stuff and seeing and discovering the fraud .
And then -shoot Bill Diamond lorded over the tax revenues that Elan generated for the state of Maine - He sat on a judicial committee and a transportation committee . Ricci was making millions with his Elan so it was defraud the US - the IRS but as far as doing business with the state and it was protected and my God man it was so protected that the media in Maine is/was in on it, so Elan was allowed to do what it was doing ,even it was as crooked and as criminal , and yet because of the huge taxes state taxes that Elan generated -it was certainly protected .
It truly was a win -win for Ricci and for Maine - shoot the Windham District -Bill Diamond's district encompassed Poland Springs where Elan was located the tax revenues just flowed and that area doesn't have a large population - in fact Maine probably due to the winters ( harsh ) doesn't have a large population then nor now.
There is so much to this story than just what went on in Elan , which was well you know quite criminal and to know that this criminal enterprise was allowed to continue to exist and they knew -lol oh they knew what was going on in there , people were told who had jobs with the Parole and Probation in the state of Maine by their supervisor/superiors that if you "reported the (abuse ) problems of the criminal nature that was happening in Elan that you would become the problem and could be made to disappear just like Jimmy Hoffa. Sure it may seem funny but quite honestly I don't think death threats like that are funny.
so when I say that Elan was a continuing criminal enterprise that was protected by Maine State officials - and when I say that the people in the state of Maine that were to protect children - like Bill Diamond , all the Maine Governor's from Longley to King all knew - and valued money more than the very children's live that all Maine state officials were to protect - it is the truth .
It is inconceivable to me that a child Philip Williams could die after a series of "Hot Box " sessions from the adults who directed Elan's notorious and brutal so called therapeutic tool know as "The ring " ( look it up on the Elan section right here on fornits) and it was simply covered up .
I know many witnesses to this incident and none were interviewed by the authorities -out right murdered by Elan and its untrained adults that Joe Ricci had working for him and the residents were told that the boy who died on 12 -27- 82 and the witnesses and combatants as Joe called them "the house champions" were all told that Philip died from a brain aneurysm - I know the facts and I write about it and I publically write about it on the Bangor Daily News website and I imagine it gets a lot of sphincters to tighten up and then the now Attorney General of Maine - who has been publically asked by the man who has come forward that use to work for the Maine State Parole and Probation for 34 plus years and of course myself have asked JANET MILLS to begin an investigation in to the death ,subsequent cover up, (really the murder of Philip Williams by the Elan Corporation and its adult directors ) and all this just falls on deaf ears
So the documentary comes out called Children of Darkness , out in 1983 post the Death of Phil Williams and previously there was a NBC reports segment that came out in 1979 where Joe Ricci says we don't have a ring and then in the next breath he says in this corner we have the house champion and in this corner we have the house bully - (Absolutely true) and then he proceeds to tell that he has girls beaten in this ring that is not a ring because "girls can be bullies also" .
And the beat goes on - This may seem like some bizarre conspiracy theory and the rantings of a mad man - though it is as true as the fact that the sun rises in the east .
I don't know what to do about except when ever I get a chance to write publically up there on some Maine Newspaper - I write , it is all over fornits of course - and Dammit I realize that the only way an investigation/prosecution is going to be done , if it is done will be by the DoJ because the corruption is so thick in Maine that it has become very obvious that the Attorney General of Maine Janet Mills is incapable of doing an investigation because she and her buddies ( cronies) are up to their eyeballs in this endeavor that allowed Elan to exist as a continuing criminal enterprise for close to forty years .
Sorry Ajax it is a very sad reality, albeit true and it is a very sick legacy for good people that do exist in the state of Maine- that literally did not know - so I write and I write and I write who knows maybe Federal Attorney General Mrs.Lynch will get wind of this - and who knows maybe there will be justice for Phil Williams and Elan survivors.
I still got some cards that I holding- and every day I learn more about the whos in Maine that protected that Elan Corporation as it existed as a continuing criminal enterprise for close to forty years . And I have been writing about Elan for 15 years , it aint nothing but the truth , though some may consider this some conspiracy theory -lol. Sadly it is true, just as true as yes that is my name .
Ashes , Ashes all fall down .
peace
Matt
ajax13:
As far as I can tell, a conspiracy theory is simply a pejorative used by folks whose position and livelihood depend on hewing to the relentless propaganda that passes for history and rational thought. I know little about Elan. My partner is in the seventh year of a lawsuit filed against her by a Straight clone. This clone, the Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre, is, without question, the product of a conspiracy.
The apparatus of the US state and deep state have committed enough atrocities to generate an encyclopedia devoted to the subject. This is because the US state became the most powerful in the world in an era of unprecedented technological power, from techniques of psychological manipulation to B-52s. Americans are just like the rest of humanity, pawns of the elite. I live in Canada, and despite what people here have been told, the Canadian state has been a servant of empire for the British and then US elites, with all the manipulation, exploitation and bloodshed that entails.
Government is a device, like a photocopier or a SLAPP suit, operated by elites. Here is an example of folks who do exert control over the levers of state power:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/billionaires-adelson-and-saban-at-odds-in-campaigns-unite-on-israel-and-hit-obama/2014/11/09/92a40f68-6835-11e4-b053-65cea7903f2e_story.html
Matt C. Hoffman:
Thank you for the link - I knew the A man mentioned in the article - didn't know of the other man - Stratospheric wealth between the two One supports Israel, and the other one supports Israel and Palestine State . The one that supports Israel does not support Palestinians because he believes they don't exist . Amazing the one that supports the two party state funds the Democrats and of course the other one supports the republicans .
And when support is mentioned one could say funds - that little article told me so much they are both friends and what is scary it that the feeling I got from the article is to both of them it apparently is just a game - Pretty cut and dry - I can't imagine being so rich that you actually believe you can buy an election and to boldly come out and say what they were quoted as saying makes me wonder if they are a little amused at Trump and his constant reminding the American people that he is 10 times a billionare -
I guess when you have wealth at your disposal like these two men Mr. A and Mr. S and some punk comes out and berates their masses that it might have caused them to come forward. the brash Comments about trying to buy the NYTimes and the comments about Jeff B. just were equally touching -
Elan was my program - there is enogh information about it here and all over the net - I don't want to waste your time telling you about it - Though it is my thing and the beat goes on .
Thank you again for that link- it puts other things in a different perspective . And to these two Gentle men it is just a game -real life of the trading places genre of a game- seems- like Iran is toast .
I am sorry to hear your friend is having to deal with a lingering lawsuit - - I liked what Zappa said about religion - people should never force it upon their children - let them grow up and let them decide - I practice that idea and my beliefs are very personal - it is the old song as Box of Rain, "use it if you need it - leave it if you dare ".
Canadians just had a recent election - are you happy with the younger Tru dough - sorry I cannot for the life of me even come close to spelling his name for Spell check to commit a choice for me - a photocopier - I laughed seems like I agree - sadly to those two men we are expendable -send in the troops for the weapons of mass destruction that don't exist - oops that's Iraq- also thank you for putting the perspective of the pejorative in a concept that is very true and I understand you .
I like Ike he said beware of the military industrial complex - this link goes beyond that concept - and they laugh as we are non entities -disposable and apparently very easily motivated towards their goals thru fear and hate - Do you think Trump chafes them ? He is but a blip on the money meter compared to those men - wow
And the televangelists Tammy and Jim made millions until the scam came to light by just publically asking for money and they would do what - o boy . I wonder if the bell curve pertaining to intelligence/awareness is correct- and that is truly scary.
It is thought provoking and just frightening to see the writing on the wall as to what could possibly come to be, according to that article, and to know what has already come to pass - and to them it seems like its just a game among two friends.
May be Socrates was correct in speaking about how man is in capable of governing himself- so was it bleed on our knives or drink the hemlock? - and we know historically what he chose.
Peace
Matt
ajax13:
The only means to resolve that unpleasantness, if a state set aside for a particular ethnic or religous group is to continue, is to have the Palestinians removed. If they don't exist, it shouldn't be a big deal. With 600 000 "settlers" coming from Skokie and Toronto to claim their divine vouchers in the West Bank, that will be the end result.
Here's an interesting take on the bell curve:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9SWsGKd2Ro
I can't say that I much care for Ike. His role in this event doesn't do much for my opinon of the man:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/marching-on-history-75797769/?no-ist
Trudeau is another place-holder who will continue the corporatists agenda in Canada. His old man was an elite nationalist, an ideology from another era. He did try to stand up to the empire, refusing cruise missile tests over the Canadian North, but the US Congress soon brought their considerable economic power to bear, and Trudeau Sr. got his mind right.
http://www.csmonitor.com/1983/0329/032955.html
Matt C. Hoffman:
Ajax - I totally agree with you that the American media is just not honest - middle Americans doesn't ask the questions( well some do ) or demand of the media to investigate or demand that it reports a serious crime. The know nothing American media is it scared of telling the truth- - does money tell it what it can and cannot report -( Adelson tries to buy a Las Vegas newspaper? ) Or is it “say it isn't so” the American Government.
http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/index.php?topic=44316.msg427701#msg427701
I recently questioned politely an Editor why the complete, whole story of the TTI (abusive) industry isn't reported since it so very easy to find on the internet. I was told because the incident(s) of abuse in this story for example - are local, indeed I said as one reads the above article of alleged child abuse at a ( RTC) teen boarding school, in Yoncalla, Oregon. by the Statesman Journal-
And when one looks at the more recently sanitized version of local reporting very different, below same place different paper the Register Guard - a few weeks apart and this was what that paper reported:
http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/33929478-75/oregon-human-services-department-threatens-license-of-yoncalla-teen-boarding-school.html.csp
Oregon Human Services Department threatens license of Yoncalla teen boarding school
I asked as to why the greater story of the TTI is not reported - it is huge it might be one of the biggest crime stories ever- as this industry continues to nationally operate under large corporations , conglomerates of the troubled teen industry, for example UHS, the answer apparently it is not local.
Then I asked why did you send my letter that I wrote way back 2000 to the Greenwich Times - this is not in dispute - and the answer was "that was all I could do". And I can agree since my letter of serious content did not contain actually proof – as I put forth a searing indictment of Joe Ricc's Elan , located in Poland ,Springs Maine .
I re- read your topic concerning the “know nothing media” - Ajax13- and then it struck me you are not talking about the media being dumb - ( this by the way is a complete re-edit -) no not by any means it is a very knowing and from this knowledge, indeed appears calculating/protecting of this horrid industry that abuses children for a serious profit since this troubled teen industry does exist nation wide.
The American media certainly does know and in fact since 2000 it was told by my letter of serious indictment ; Dear Sirs, That besides the Kennedy's family having suffered severe tragedies, Joe Ricci needs to be reminded that many, families have suffered severe tragedies, as well as their loved ones from just having come in contact with him, his elan ,and his cretins that helped him run it "…... a little more accurate version as to what my letter contained.
I went on to write of the tragedies suffered - only three paragraphs my letter -I know he couldn't print it then because it was a serious letter of indictment, that mentioned an American families household well known name - yet why I asked was my letter sent ( faxed ) across the country to the Greenwich Times and the answer was " that was all I could do " . I understand this there were no real supporting statement of facts , witnesses, like there are now.
Please Mr. Jackman Wilson - I may butter you up on a comment- sure- it was an intense time for me - and you have the audacity to blow smoke ....as a representative and a member of the media as well as Mr. Mike Sweeny knew way back then -( his out of not knowing is that he doesn't work at the GT any more).
Mr. Wilson you sent a letter 3000 miles across the country in 2000. So yesterday I asked if you had any idea why the American media since you are a member of the this establishment by being an Op Editor for the Register Guard now and certainly then in Jan 0f 2000.
Why does the knowing American media not report on the bigger picture of this TT industry, and you said we report on the local abuses - Funny it appears that the know nothing local media apparently can't report accurately on the abuses reported by another paper in its own state –
Again in 2000 that letter ( my letter ) of serious indictment of Joe Ricci , and his Elan goes across the country from Eugene Oregon to Greenwich, Connecticut to me I think certainly that is not local reporting/or investigating – is it colliusion/complictly ? of this known participant of Joe Ricci's Elan in the greater scheme of the TTI, since both papers Editor's told me they could not print my letter – though Mr. Sweeney called me up upon receiving the faxed copy of my letter sent by Mr. Jackman Wilson to ask me if I had indeed written it ,though he told me he can't print it.
There is no dispute about my letter being sent across the country as I have described – and I have written about this before on this site, the my letter and Mr. Sweeny etc, a while back actually, here on Fornits. I asm not going to go look for it , christ I know it is here.
I see that in state “local reporting” the local media cannot apparently report accurately/ consistently as we see from the two posted articles about the same place -concerning abuses -
What concerns me even more the Register Guard sent a letter across the country – the American media knew about Elan - as did the American media member, the Greenwich Times on the east coast back in 2000 -
True the Greenwich Times was really reporting and investigating the murder of Martha Moxley that happened in 1975- by allegedly by a Kennedy relative who was one of Joe Ricci's residents at his Elan. This is also very documented, and confirmed by Mr. Sweeny ,as he mentioned to me that the story was more about the person who allegedly murdered a young woman in 1975, and not Elan.
The results the abuses of Elan as it effected many other American families who I opined had suffered as well as the loved ones who are/were known to me, by my letter, in effect was tip to the American media back in 2000 as that letter traveled rather un- locally across the nation, about a known imo criminal organization that was very active and evidently protected as this organization's certain facts became known over the years since 2000 as the Elan Corporation/ school Joe Ricci's protected golden cash cow, started to be exposed by survivors of that hell hole, as we wrote about it everywhere we could. It started in 1970 and wasn't closed until 2011- interesting?
And I am told that was all the Register Guard could do was fax that letter . Sounds like bad American media - knowing about a continuing crime and not reporting it or investigating it as it was well known to this know nothing American media – jeez.
The question I asked yesterday was why the media doesn't report one of the biggest crimes against children and scams against parents in this country the Troubled Teen ( abusive) industry, it has simply become so apparent when the media has known about this sick industry for at least 16 plus years, it has certainly known about the existence of this abhorrent industry. - are we the public to believe reporters cannot google the words Troubled Teen Industry - and not see it first hand, the information rolls across the screen, or do their screens simply black out and nothing can be seen by a reporter googling – the troubled teen industry.
I wrote a letter expressing back in January of 2000 ( there is no dispute about this fact ) my first hand knowledge of a sadistic ,violent ,brutal , soul eating hell hole as I was quoted by Judy Meyers Editor in the newspaper, and American media member the Lewiston Sun Journal, in Lewiston, Maine when Elan closed in 2011 - but I wrote my letter in 2000. Why 11 years so late ?
I will give, that in Maine, Elan existed at the pleasure and protection of the very people that valued money more than the very lives of children they were entrusted to protect by the state offices they held. A Point made by Mr. Roy Gutfinski's comment on Mr.Bill Diamonds amazon book review page , the Evil and the Innocent, and Mr. Gutfinski courageously comes forward after have retired after having held the position of a Maine State parole and probation officer for close to 34 years , who states he was told by superiors that if he kept making the problems he knew about Elan, that he could become the problem “and be made to disappear like Jimmy Hoffa”.
Hoffa vanished in 1975.
Really know nothing American media this man made this comment over a year plus ago- It can be read on the Elan site as well here on Fornits– don't and please don't take my word for it – please read his .comment/statement concerning the protection he learned that as he was told early in his career , threatened really, that he could become the problem and be made to disappear just like Jimmy Hoffa as he learned of the protection Joe Ricci and Elan enjoyed provided by people in Maine state office.
I had to write that twice – it is so darn mind boggling the implications of Roy Gutfinski's words are deafening loud, and indicting of the corrupt protection that was affored Joe Ricci and his Elan . Goes all the way back to Gov. Longly in 1975 . See trailer for The last Stop Illinois knew when they tried to pull out its states wards , in 1975., and what Illionois was found was deplorable -
And of course the DoJ needs to speak with this man Roy Gutfinski a former officer of law , coerced to get in line with the protection afforded the Elan place in Poland Springs Me. The DoJ needs gets off its collective rear end and begin a politically unbiased investigation in to the Elan school, using the Rico Act an investigative and prosecutorial tool the DoJ ( Federal Dept of Justice) has that tool that can be used to investigate and prosecute criminal organizations imo like Joe Ricci's Elan that ran for close to forty years – regardless of the fact Elan closed in 2011.
Elan survivors know that the state of Maine is totally incapable of conducting an investigation of this nature because of the stink that allowed Elan to exist as it ran (again ) imo as a criminal organization for close to forty years – And this is certainly a known story by the American media in the State of Maine – Judy Meyers knows Mr. Bill Diamond and he is not going to be investigated by her news organization The Lewiston Sun Journal that she is an editor, and since it is a local story – man how it stinks, this bleeding festering wound on Maine State history all the way down here to Virginia, and the stench can be smelled from this wound 3000 miles away in Oregon as it's Register Guard ,a member of the American media ,has known about Elan for over 16 years.
And to the American media this isn't news nor worth reporting as Elan is/was a part of this sick and utterly criminal Troubled Teen Industry – that thrives under the watch of the know nothing American media – one word please.
Know nothing my American eye balls , -media - So where actually is the Know nothing American media on this - a big sick story, one so sick it encompasses so many states, even countries, Canada's AARC, which came from a closed and rightfully closed abusive, Kids of Bergin county of New Jersey , -a spin off of the Straights that was closed in Florida for being abusive to children- information so easily found. The trail of these people can be followed as they close down under one name and open up as they migrated north to eventually Canada and set up shop as AARC.
Same abusive techniques that closed Straights, as employees from Straights started Kids of Bergin county new Jersey same abusive practices – really same program just a different name – shut down –in this criminal sadistic child abusing for profit industry aka the Troubled Teen Industry. Whack a mole indeed.
It is beyond my imagination , this story Happened/ is happening right underneath this know nothing American media's collective noses as the original story I read that set me off about Joe Ricci's Elan was under the AP ( associated press) writing and release back in 2000.
At least the CBC has the guts to investigate and thru the programing of the fifth estate, the dishonest know nothing American media refuses to investigate and actually report about this crime happening against the American population's must vulnerable population , children , and in some cases abusing the daylights out of at risk children placed by states as they look for programs for their wards because of they monies they are willing to spend getting the child's case off the desk of state social workers.
This industry preys on parents fears as it manipulates them into believing that their child if not placed in a program will that child will soon be dead shilled by Education consultants that feed the children by predatory and false marketing practices used on parent to get hteir loved children into these abusive programs.
So disgusting is this issue that festers and grows effortlessly under the watch of the know nothing American media.
Ajax I am no reporter and if person like I can read and make the connections of abuse easily to programs operating today - one would think the American Media could very easily connect those very dots and collectively report on this insane crazy abuse as therapy for profit industry -
last time I looked child abuse is a crime - a very serious crime , and that is what this sick industry profits upon. And to think this knowing American media knows very well about this insidiously sick Troubled Teen Industry it is now looking like this troubled teen industry exists at the pleasure of the American MEDIA, whoa there certainly goes a bit credibility right out the window.
NBC news was to conduct interviews of survivors of abusive programs , one was a Canadian survivor , about 2.5 or so years ago – It was posted on Reddits talked about on a Reddits sub called the Troubled Teen Industry, eventually this conducting of the interviews was quashed - And this is a rather huge story - one would think that it could be very easy for the American media to report and expose to the mainstream America this truly sad and sick, damaging industry that profits on serial criminal child abuse all over this country. Why was this quashed ?
Know nothing shoot -it stinks so badly this knowing and lack of reporting of a serious criminal enterprise the T T abusive industry . Especially when it concerns the wide spread use of criminally abusing children as therapy – read the survivors stories and then having the audacity to profit hugely on this to the tune of close to a billion dollars a year , as this criminal industry banks such profits - it is just simply wrong.
A few I'd like to know who is telling the media not to report this crime - it has become a too obvious a story to not report - who is knowingly telling the media to ignore this story ? Who has the power to tell the American media to not report this rather extensive that has key players UHS (universal heath services )
Can the Associated Press(AP) or news organizations, United Press International(UPI) , be taken to court for not reporting/ and certainly knowing about a crime, of abusing children for profit ? Can the press be forced to report a crime since many people know the American media certainly knows about this TTI and stories of chronic abusive practices masquerading as therapy ?
Ajax I want to snag that reporting that was done by the CBC - on Dean Vause's- little scam imo he has got tooling along in Canada , the hidden camera footage is just typical of this industry , it is not us that are doing it , Vause complains its the victims and survivors that are lying , just grossly sickening and typical as these places like the Scotts Valley School that “Oscar” had originally posted (and I posted here at the top in my comment ) on the section on this site Fornits called the Trouble Teen Industry, and the subsequent follow up story by the Register Guard from the 8th of this month January I found on Reddit's TTI.
I would like to put the CBC video on another site. I trust/hope you won't mind.
In my opinion one way or another this story has got to end. And for god's sake American media please just give me some truth.
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