Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Programs and Politics: a connection?
psy:
--- Quote from: "blombrowski" ---The industry takes a strictly capitalist, individualist, parents' rights model of treatment.
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Sorry, what there? Parents' rights I grant you but capitalism is irrelevant and it seems to me a viewpoint that respects the individual would very much be in opposition to the industry. I'm not trying to jump on you but do keep in mind that bringing politics into an argument unnecessarily alienates half your audience (and likely more than half of those who count in this case).
blombrowski:
I'm not trying to indicate that capitalism is bad. It's capitalism that respects the parent as an individual customer, that I was referring to. One of the differences between the TTI and publicly funded residential treatment, are the lengths to which facilities compete over individual parents, by catering to those individuals selling points.
Facilities in the TTI are more exposed to the whims of the private marketplace than publicly funded residential treatment. Truth campaigns against UHS have had no impact on their market share, yet truth campaigns against WWASP, Élan, FFS, and Aspen has.
Pile of Dead Kids:
I'll just leave this here:
--- Quote from: "Dorit Beinisch, President of the Israeli Supreme Court" ---Israel's basic legal principles hold that the right to use force in general, and the right to enforce criminal law by putting people behind bars in particular, is one of the most fundamental and one of the most invasive powers in the state's jurisdiction. Thus when the power to incarcerate is transferred to a private corporation whose purpose is making money, the act of depriving a person of his liberty loses much of its legitimacy. Because of this loss of legitimacy, the violation of the prisoner's right to liberty goes beyond the violation entailed in the incarceration itself.
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http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... ael-1.3774
blombrowski:
You know, there are Yeshivas in Israel that function like some of the Mormon programs (the church affiliated ones) in Utah. Not particularly driven by capitalism, as these programs are largely supported by private donations.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---I'll just leave this here:
--- Quote from: "Dorit Beinisch, President of the Israeli Supreme Court" ---Israel's basic legal principles hold that the right to use force in general, and the right to enforce criminal law by putting people behind bars in particular, is one of the most fundamental and one of the most invasive powers in the state's jurisdiction. Thus when the power to incarcerate is transferred to a private corporation whose purpose is making money, the act of depriving a person of his liberty loses much of its legitimacy. Because of this loss of legitimacy, the violation of the prisoner's right to liberty goes beyond the violation entailed in the incarceration itself.
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http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... ael-1.3774
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Privatizing the prisons would never be a good idea, as much as like keeping the government as small as possible. If a corporation is being paid to incarcerate someone then there is no incentive to ever let him out or to complete the sentence. Very dangerous.
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