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A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« on: January 05, 2013, 05:39:48 PM »
http://www.paulmorantz.com/the_synanon_story/aftermath-the-synanon-legacy/

"Elan was known of using such standards as haircut, pull- up, the game and humiliating signs; but added a boxing ring for resisters to be plummeted by bigger guys until a bloody confession was extracted, regardless of its truth. A former member of Elan wrote:

“Elan is best described as a, “sadistic, brutal, violent, soul-eating hellhole.” At Elan, the Game was transformed into constant screaming and degradation and the physically rough treatment became all day violence. We were beaten for the slightest infractions of the rules. Spankings with paddles often drew blood and Phil Williams was beaten to death in the ring. I was forced to watch twenty men and women beat a 14 year old girl in what we called a, “Cowboy Ass kicking,” for ten to twenty minutes. I had never been arrested nor done drugs. None of us were hardcore drug addicts. We were mentally ill.
 
“Chuck Dederich would not only envy the Money Elan made, but the protection they got. Joe Ricci, the owner, survived the state of Illinois pulling residents out because of the abuse and beat them in court. Joe was a thug and a gangster, but when a law abiding citizen said so, Joe sued his bank and won ten million dollars. Forty four years later, with Joe dead and Elan closed down survivors are still searching for someone in a position of authority to admit that what happened there was abuse. If CED had that kind of protection, he would have died a king.”


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 Posted December 14, 2012 at 1:01 AM


CED had similar protection but blew it when he started ordering attacks and got caught on his tapes. Elan did not offer the same type of tapestry as Synanon and thus probably caused more injury to its members
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013, 07:24:48 PM »
Dr. Robert DuPont, the second White House Drug Czar and founding director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) and who administered a whopping $1.8 million contract to an experimental, start-up synanon for kids-only called The Seed in Fort Lauderdale. And furthermore, the National Institutes of Health (NIDA’s parent) had funded the first Synanon copy-cat program in NYC called Daytop Lodge. (Joe Ricci was a former Daytop student who went on to found his own program for troubled youth in Maine called Elan–see below.)
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The troubled teen industry is ineffective because advocates are after money, fame or are as abusive as the programs they\'re fighting

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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2013, 06:09:22 AM »
Wayne, you need to share more about your feelings lol
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2013, 11:47:35 AM »
No Wayne! Nobody here wants you to share anything!GO AWAY! STAY AWAY!!
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2013, 05:36:40 PM »
none-ya wrote :
> No Wayne! Nobody here wants you to share anything!GO AWAY! STAY AWAY!

 Yo  None -Ya I have to say buddy that I don't really understand your deal here on this forum . You seem to want to simply stir the pot here and enjoy the mayhem that follows .

You started a defend Danny Bennison thread that only Danny and his sock puppets replied. I don't believe if memory serves if anyone really defended him .

Honestly I  don't know why you post on this forum you didn't go to Elan (unless you are another sock of Danny's) and I really don't care if you are a sock of Danny Bennison's ,it doesn't matter anyway .

I was in Elan , and let me tell you None-Ya ,the book that Wayne wrote called A Life gone awry: My Story about the Elan School,  portrayed the ambiance of what it was like during my time which was two years before Wayne got there. And no, None-Ya I had nothing to do with the writing of that book. As some fool suggested, and no None-Ya there was simply not enough info on this forum or the web to fictiously write about a place like Wayne did unless he was there ,Sorry.

The Fear , the homophobia ,the lunacy and all the violence was there when I was there and None-Ya it was sick.

None-Ya look dude you don't speak for me in your attack against Wayne Kernochan when you say that no one wants him to share anything. I believe what Wayne has shared about Paul Morantz thoughts on the Aftermath of the Synanon legacy  blog, is quite interesting and valuable  to the Elan story.

I don't know what program you were in but it behooves you to read Paul Morantz's blog  just to see  how impacted your were by Synanon thru your  particular program. And attacking the speaker like you did Wayne is just the continuance of the game, that your program taught you ,it offers nothing. I am glad Wayne posted what he did, because it is very valuable in the history of Elan  and offers the survivors of Elan more than you could possibly understand  because you were not in Elan, Right?

Therfore None-Ya since you didn't go to Elan and since your behavior here is more of a nusance and simply seems to feed your need. I want you to stop posting here on this Elan forum  because  it is really  none ya business.

thank you in advance  

Matt Hoffman
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2013, 08:24:36 PM »
You want me to talk about my feelings and Danny and Art? Okay. Danny and Art didn’t report the abuse because they didn’t see it as abuse. For a lot of years I didn’t either. I accepted it, like I had been told to do.
I spoke to a person who was there in 1984 last night and he said Joe used to threaten to keep people longer, and said, “I can take away your childhood.”

He did that and more. They robbed us of a lot of things. Danny and Art and people like them were the worst victims. Affection makes their skin crawl. It did that to all of us. Talk about feelings much? I don’t and never did. Neither did many of you.
Lots of us figured it out or blocked it out and made lives for themselves. I was in the middle of that when all of this shit happened. I was happy and productive and people liked being around me. Since I’ve been away from the internet, I’ve gone back to that life.
All I hear in the way of Elan success stories is how much money you people made. I’ve done a few things in my life too. I’ve worked in homeless shelters and soup kitchens and given generously to charity all my life. Even when I was on drugs, I used to put money in the bread box at St Francis church.
I give away money to the local soup kitchen, mostly mentally ill Vietnam Vets, and am getting ready to do a writer’s course for the library to raise money for the children’s program. I roll twenty cigarettes a day and go to the park to give them away to the homeless

Elan should be proud of me.
Like Danny, I wasn’t prepared for the flood of emotions that I went through when this all came back in my life. I didn’t know I still had that kind of viciousness still in me. I was ashamed. But the fact is, that was my Elan mind, the one Art and Danny are trapped in, and I can control that by just walking away
Everything bad about me was put there by Elan. I don’t take the blame for any of it. I wasn’t a monster, they were. I wasn’t bad, they were. With them gone from my life, people love me. People admire me. People want to be around me.
Elan robbed people like Art and Danny of their entire lives. I thought the people who disappeared after they closed their doors were fucked up, but they were the smart ones. The thing about Danny and Art and the rest of them, is they need to get in your head, and they can’t do that when their only existence is on the internet.
Except for promoting my books, the only time Elan occupies in my life, is my continuous effort to find a lawyer to sue Elan for sexual abuse.
Anyway, have fun screaming into the wind guys. No one cares. They didn’t then. They don’t now. And, they never will

Ciao
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 06:45:53 AM »
Can we please stay on topic?
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 10:49:01 AM »
Look Matt, I have nothing against you. Never have. I've never threatened you or insulted you.Or wished you to die. Or wished that your offspring be born with webbed feet or anything. I have never attacked YOU!! But you have taken my issues with Wayne the liar personal.Too bad for you!I was never intended.And no, I didn't go to elan. You know that I've never claimed to. But from my time here,that I read everything.(until lately) Every Elan story. All the fighting between Art, Mark,Felice,and you. All the stories about Danny,the ring,the Kennedy cousin,ALL of it!! Everybody here knew all of those stories by heart. It was the same shit  over and over again. THEN here comes a "book". A really short book. With not one brand new story. Even had a built in villain. Danny Bennison.The funny thing is, Danny fought all the allegations except Wayne's.  Danny's response to Wayne was,"I don't know you". "We never met at Elan". I thought WHAT? This should be easy enough to prove either way.So I asked who knew who from Elan.All the usual suspects seemed to know each other except Wayne. So I then asked does anyone remember Wayne from Elan? NOT ONE PERSON CLAIMED TO HAVE MET HIM.NOT EVEN YOU!!! Between that and the radio shows with the phoney charity.  Have you read any of his other stuff? He's a name dropping fraud. Look I'm sorry for everything Elan survivors went through. I'm sure it was hell. So why let this two bit pimp exploit you? Again,I've got no problem with you. But Wayne Kernochan is a lying piece of shit


ps. I'm sure all of the pro Wayne trolls are gonna' shit all over this. Go ahead I expect no less.
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2013, 02:35:53 PM »
None-ya can't stay out of Elan drama because he is Elan's biggest drama queen-Danny Bennison

You disappeared for months but couldn't pass on attacking Wayne. Only one person gives a shit about Wayne that much any more, and that's Danny "Fucking" Bennison.

You created your own nemesis to find out what people had on you. simple
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 01:34:36 AM »
Terry Kato sounds like the name of a street bum, just saying.
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 10:38:37 AM »
none-ya wrote :
> Look Matt, I have nothing against you. Never have. I've never threatened
> you or insulted you.Or wished you to die. Or wished that your offspring be
> born with webbed feet or anything. I have never attacked YOU!! But you have
> taken my issues with Wayne the liar personal.Too bad for you!I was never
> intended.And no, I didn't go to elan. You know that I've never claimed to.
> But from my time here,that I read everything.(until lately) Every Elan
> story. All the fighting between Art, Mark,Felice,and you. All the stories
> about Danny,the ring,the Kennedy cousin,ALL of it!! Everybody here knew all
> of those stories by heart. It was the same shit  over and over again. THEN
> here comes a "book". A really short book. With not one brand new
> story. Even had a built in villain. Danny Bennison.The funny thing is,
> Danny fought all the allegations except Wayne's.  Danny's response to Wayne
> was,"I don't know you". "We never met at Elan". I
> thought WHAT? This should be easy enough to prove either way.So I asked who
> knew who from Elan.All the usual suspects seemed to know each other except
> Wayne. So I then asked does anyone remember Wayne from Elan? NOT ONE PERSON
> CLAIMED TO HAVE MET HIM.NOT EVEN YOU!!! Between that and the radio shows
> with the phoney charity.  Have you read any of his other stuff? He's a name
> dropping fraud. Look I'm sorry for everything Elan survivors went through.
> I'm sure it was hell. So why let this two bit pimp exploit you? Again,I've
> got no problem with you. But Wayne Kernochan is a lying piece of shit
>
>
> ps. I'm sure all of the pro Wayne trolls are gonna' shit all over this. Go
> ahead I expect no less.

Quote from: BBW getting fuck 2
Terry Kato sounds like the name of a street bum, just saying.

just saying  ----------- Danny Bennison STFU
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2013, 11:29:52 AM »
Paul Morantz should join the FB group "Elan saved my life" It would give him a better idea of how fucked up the ones who did well are

The chick who started the group is pushing 400 pounds (No Danny, you can't tie her to the back of your car) The person who posts the most (Tim 'the douche' Richardson) is as abusive as he was when he was there.

Funny, in the two years the group has been there, they never once mention how Elan saved their life, or what they're doing with that new life. All they do is bitch

(Danny, feel free to tie Tim to the back of your car)
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Re: A few thoughts about Elan by Paul Morantz
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2013, 02:05:36 PM »
Same ole sock puppets, saying the same ole unsubstantiated bullshit.
Two facts, Matt Hoffman stabbed Robert A repeatedly and Wayne Kernochan molested a young boy in his backyard. Those are facts that no one can dispute. Both of these sick bastards were emotionally and mentally disturbed before they supposedly got to Élan, after they supposedly left Élan they went on to continue there violent nature. Wayne burned his parents house down and was sent to prison. Matt is an angry abusive soul just read his posts.
Wayne was never in Élan but continues to say he was.
What is so sad is they both are quick to point out others faults and most of the time lie about the person they want to hurt.
Wayne loves to talk about rape and molestation and yet he is the only one here that was sent away for this very act on a young boy and later in his life he abused and stole from older men while they slept after he had sex with them. Matt loves to scream about abuse and violent tendencies and yet he is the only one who stabbed another resident while at Élan, he came to Élan with a violent tendency and went on to lead a life with much anger.
These two and the various others who spout off here are classic examples of people who are living very unfulfilled lives. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Keep beating on Danny maybe one day the peace you are chasing may come.....NOT!!
None ya trying to relate with these demented fools is worthless. They don't care about what is true or false, what they want is for some one to play with them. They are lonely starving attention seekers, (sociopaths). They need our attention to validate their existence, we are subsidizing their membership here.
Let me clear up what Wayne Kernochan, Felice Eliscue, Mark Babbitz, Matt Hoffman, Sharon McCarthy and their accomplices have put on the search engine Google. Everyone here is not fooled by your suggestions to go and google Danny and you will find out about Danny. Most if not all the information within the search is immature rants by very sick people, hell bent on trying to blackball Danny by whatever means necessary.
Trust me all of you are well documented. We have criminal records, mental health visits, arrests and what your peers think of you within your communities. All of this has even gathered surrounding the years after you left Élan. Most of you have records as recent as within the last year. Wayne spent time at Vitam as a child for molesting a young boy. Doubt what I am saying, ask his family.
So please keep promoting the Google search for Danny, it actually helps him.
Good night.

If we had pleaded with Paul Morantz to speak on behalf of Élan the way Wayne and Matt had done, we could have got him to write a book. Shit, just like Matt, Sharon, Felice,Mark and Albert Beauchane did with Wayne Kernochan. The only connection Wayne has with treatment centers and mental institutions is Vitam (Wayne was sent there for molesting a young boy- read his second memoir on Élan. He tries to blame it all on his brother but his family knows who did it. Wayne you are a disgrace and a pathetic burden to your family. All one has to do is call them, they are more than happy to oblige your questions.
Paul Morantz has very little knowledge of Synanon and no knowledge of Élan. You people become very confused with writing a e book and having real knowledge. Like Wayne, Paul used others and open to the public articles in his book.
This is not to infer that I don't believe both rehabs were abusive and needed to be shut down. What I am saying is Wayne and Paul are not credible sources for info on these two institutions.

Just to clarify one more time Rauraidh (myself) and Horatio are not Danny. We are friends of Danny.
(Anyone used to using Apple products such as iPad's all know that "are" and "our" can be mistakenly inserted in sentences.)

It is not our responsibility to validate the accusations you have leveled. That is your deal. Wayne needs to answer why he is a fraud, Matt needs to answer for his murderous act and the fact he worked as staff and an escort. It doesn't matter if he was in re-entry or not. Hundreds of people went on into re-entry and chose not to work for Élan. Matt did and got paid for it. Mark Babbitz was home free from Élan and decided to come back,what hypocritical answer can he come up with.
The Élan brats that are here writing this immature crap and wasting our time need to regroup and realize they are hurting themselves more than Danny.
Paul Morantz, your misrepresentation of him is another reason why we don't take you seriously.
Do us all a favor, if you are going to write on this site act like you are a grown up.
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