***Parents sent their kids there because they had problems with kids listening to what they told them to do, and so Dundee has an environment that is structured around kids learning that every action they commit creates a result. Dundee rewarded good behavior, and consequented bad behavior.***
Chris,
Did the kids wiping buggers actually received a ?consequence? if they laid on a towel and avoided school? If they were going to lay around, why not their room or the beach? Point being, why the ?special room?? What was so special about that room? How many days did one bugger wiping get a guy? Sounds like the more appropriate ?consequence? would have been to have to go to school.. of course, if issuing consequences was the intention. I'm still trying to imagine a number(?) of guys laying around on towels in a small room all day while others are at school. How many fit in the OP room?
What type of rewards did you receive? The privilege of eventually being allowed to speak to your parents? You know, contact with your parents is a RIGHT not a privilege. Now, if your parents refuse to speak to you, that?s another matter- and most definitely is abandonment. Here in the real world, where right and wrong exist and where right (just) sometimes prevails; the only way a third party can severe contact between parent and child is when it is proven by a court of law to be detrimental to the child?s well-being. There seems no other explanation for this, except to establish that they are the ultimate authority in your life. Do you believe that any means to an end are acceptable? Would the ?incentive to get home? as you say, have been any less if you?d had contact with your parents?
Yes, there are rules in life. Some of us believe that most of the basic rules of most all programs are not humane. Not a beneficial or desirable means to the end. Can you fathom that you might be happy and well adjusted today without the treatment you received at Dundee? People find clever ways to get around irrational and unreasonable rules, Ex: ?They weren't the same kids that I used to laugh with in our rooms when we were supposed to be on silence?? If they really wanted you to be silent, and meant it, wouldn?t they have had someone sit in the room or monitor the room on camera? How do you explain that? Do you think it humane to deny a person basic rights such as looking out the window, looking at self in the mirror, looking at the opposite sex, speaking without permission, no contact with the outside world. For all intents and purposes, you were in a private prison.
Were you ever in OP? Did you have to kneel or lay face down motionless, or did you lay on a towel for days on end? Did you ever have your arm twisted behind your back?
Where do you draw the line on human rights, particularly the rights of parent/child? If/when you have children, do you think that you?ll have the same rules for him/her that you learned there? I mean, if it?s good for change, might it also be good for prevention? What do you think?
