Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
ISAC your information is NOT accurate....
Carey:
That was me.
Anonymous:
Isaac claims the seed was started by a synanon member. No evidence this is true.
Isaac claims the modality used by Wwasp was developed by The Straight. Not true. The wwasp is related to CEDU,not the straight, and uses a modality much different than the straight did.
Isaac has made up a name for this modality which credits the Straight for the entire teen industry. The roots of WWasp predate the straight by almost ten years.
and on and on.............
Isaac is full of shit and needs to be started over.
Anonymous:
Isaac attempts to connect the straight and Wwasp by saying Mel sembler was a fundraiser for the republican party and a wwasp person is a republican policital fundraiser in Utah. f
How weak is that? ISAAC is fast and loose with their "facts".
Isaac, I am not sure why you do what you do, but whatever it is you are doing, you are not doing it well. I would hope that your intentions are better than your end results. Your "research" final result is to make the entire body of critics of the teen help industry look less credible.
spots:
Apparently, Carey (forgetting to log in again) said:
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ISAC is only interested in telling you what they want you to hear. ISAC's web site is run similar to the WWASP website. They post what they want,they advertise what they want, they tell you only what they think you need to know.
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There is nothing wrong with publishing "edited" information on your own site, such as ISAC may have done. There certainly should be no obligation for such a child advocacy group, most of whom are 40-something Straight survivors, to provide rebuttal or alternative "WWASPS-is-really-a-good-thing" information. One would think that, understanding that ISAC stands for "International Survivors' Action Committee" would hint toward their anti-behavior-modification attitude.
ISAC has done a great service in publishing many first-person abuse statements, in publishing the tangle of suspicious businesses that make up WWASPS, in publishing records of closures, lawsuits, etc. against WWASPS, in providing volunteer support folks who can talk a victim (in my case, I as a relative with a child incarcerated incommunicado in WWASPS), in facilitating communication between victims and various media and government officials anxious to find "the other side of the story" opposing WWASPS' marketing blitz. Their site is huge, if you spend time looking at all the document links, and the State Department warning is the tip of the iceberg, only visible to those who choose to slid lightly through the information instead of working hard to find what ISAC has gathered together.
To say that "ISAC's has it's facts wrong and shouldn't be trusted" is like saying "The Pentagon is spending money poorly and it should have its funding cancelled". Say something specific, or don't say anything at all, because your blanket statement doesn't mean diddly.
Well, here we are on page 5 or so of this thread, and Carey has managed to take a reference to ISAC's information and turn it into a cussing match. For those still with us, please take a few minutes to check out the ISAC's site. The wealth of information available may help you decide whether you really want to turn your child over to the WWASPS organization or not.
Anonymous:
Just who the hell our these ISAAc people anyway?
They claim "25 years of investigative...." and "drug free workplace" among other things. Yet I am sure they are a new group. Then they chide a wassp group for doing the same thing, having a recent incorporation and claiming years and years of experience..
Is there even a workplace or is this just a rouse? How can you be help to a "drug free workplace" when there is no workplace? Isn't the ISAAC address someone's house?
They claim to have "health professionals, etc.." like they have a huge "staff" yet none of these staff members are listed.
Interesting.
I have a vision of one or two, or even a handfull of former straight people trying to generate an image of this huge staff with all this investigative experience.
I doubt it..
Once again, there is a HUGE crediblity problem here that isn't helping anything but apparantly the ego of a very few people and discrediting the hard work of people legitimately trying to stop the abusive teen help industry.
Message to ISAAC, you don't say anything until you are absoulutey sure of your facts....EVER. Then you carefully understate your position. Never assume or interpolate facts during an "investigation" and never release these facts until they can be verified by a third party source.
Otherwise, what you have are "factoids", a rather dubious acheivement. Just because you write something down in report format does not make it credible.
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