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Anonymous:
Does anyone have a perspective on the changes in CEDU's programs?  I understand that they have shortened some of their programs, and I wonder if this has made a positive difference.   I also understand that they use less sleep deprivation in some of the schools and less confrontational Raps.  Does anyone know?

Antibody?:
CEDU talked about changes; they made changes, then they went straight back to the old model. Why? Because the dim-wit CEDU staff revolted. If you send a child there, he or she will experience softer raps, softer propheets that are still straight out of hell mental torture and brainwashing. The clinical people don't run the show. In fact, they are a sideshow. I was part of it.

The SCHOOLS are overrun with high school drop out "counselors" and high school graduate "counselors", trained by uneducated people to practice dangerous clinical therapy such as Bio-Energetics, Gestalt Therapy and Reality Therapy who are abusive, hyperreligious maniacs, hungry for power, who have no ethics and enforce mental torture exactly like that given in chinese mind control camps as discussed by author Robert Lifton in "Thought Control and the Psychology of Totalism." Hell would be better than CEDU - Now Or Ever. It is in Idaho because Idaho is backward, racist, homophobic, anti-human rights, lost in the 1940's -- Child abuse, like in Utah, is covertly legal here. That is why all the worst schools go into business here and in Utah. We dont have Famous Potatoes. We have famous prison camps for children who have done nothing wrong, who have rich, lazy, narcisistic parernts who would rather make money than raise children. You know who you are. I am a Psychotherapist. Don't trust any private boarding school for teens - especially in Idaho.  :wave:

Anonymous:
OK...

So, here we go:
Yes. There have been tremendous changes. A shit load of them. Raps are not *nearly* as intense as they used to be. Emphasis on various agreements has shifted dramatically as well. In general, things happen in waves. Some things get easier and other things get harder. When I first got there, clothing agreements were being enforced hardcore. At one point in my stay, the clothing agreements had become so ridiculous that even most of the staff laughed at them. But by the end of my stay, the clothing agreements had loosened up so much I couldn't even believe. I was never really able to completely understand the importance of the clothing agreements, so I was happy when I saw this. OK, I'm rambling. I started talking about raps. OK, so when I first got there, raps were crazy. They scared me shitless. Sometimes their intensity was effective, while other times it was not. Now, however, raps are not nearly as intense most of the time. However, they can become intense if someone chooses to make them intense. The way I see it is that now the program is becoming more flexible and more individualized. If yelling and screaming works for some people, then that is what will be used --- if non-confrontational encouragement works for other people, then that is what will be used instead. On the whole, I think it is usually pretty productive.
As for the workshops, I am not quite sure if they have changed since I have only been in each one once (except the Dreams, which I have been through twice). I have not had any "abusive" experiences in any of the workshops. Yes, at many times they were extremely painful (especially in the Summit where I wanted to die), but in many cases that is what it took to get me to pull my head out of my ass and start taking a look at myself.
OK, well I've talked enough, that's all I got.

Anonymous:
I don't want to take away anything you got from your experience at CEDU; however, you do realize that teenagers do generally mature at some point without any help from at Emotional Growth Boarding School.  I hope you did get some good tools to use from CEDU, but don't give CEDU credit for making you mature.  That's more of a biological change that occurs for most teenagers around 18.

Anonymous:
Thank you for this valuable insight...I am actually a current student (Ted from peer group S, if anyone knows me...).  I wholeheartedly agree.  All I got from CEDU was the chance to slow down and make the choice to begin recovery...the program itself, the environment, and the staff are all pretty worthless, especially for the cost of the damn program.  The whole thing is a moneymaking scheme administered by psychos that themselves should probably be in programs.  I am very happy to find this community. Keep up the good work

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