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Getting honest about statistics

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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-08-26 00:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

" I dont really care much for statistics cause, well I dont want to die today. I couldnt say that 3 years ago. Thanks AARC...:smile:"

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Holy sheepshit batman.  I have to say as a former staff graduate of an AARC similiar program (16 years ago) that I am soooooooooo glad that I no longer see drug use vs. sobriety as quantifiable in terms of the neverending battle of good vs. evil or far worse, life and death. I congratulate you for your three years of sobriety. I know that it is not an easy feat to accomplish.  However, nothing is more cultish-icky-yucky-heeby-jeeby than the notion of "leave us and you will die, stop going to AA and you will die, return to drugs and you will die, go back around druggie friends and hangouts and you will die".  Statistically speaking, the odds of you keeping your sobriety and dying a sober person are stacked against you.  
I am glad that you don't care about said statistics.

Anonymous:
Why do replies to this thread keep getting deleted?

velvet2000:
The purpose of this forum is to serve as a safe anonymous support network for survivors of AARC. AARC staff post replies, topics etc, which are typically hostile towards survivors, and  untruthful about "aarc recovery". Because they are not using the forum for its purpose and are creating a "rap" or "blast rap" forum instead, those staff members are not given a voice here. The description of this forum clearly states its purpose and the rules for posting. Any topic that does not add to the feeling of safety and support for AARC grads has no place here and should be posted somewhere else on the enormous world wide web where there is always room for discussion of any flavor.

Anonymous:
yeah, but it just creates an atmosphere of doubt, IMO.  Don't get me wrong, I fully understand and support the need for a safe place to talk about this kind of shit but I've seen on other Fornits forums how if you let them spout off it's there for everyone to see.  They reveal the truth in their own posts and on a few occasions some have really seen what a destructive hold and effect it had on them.  

No one who is out has anything to fear from them anymore and the more rope you give these people the better, IMO.  Remember, the truth is on YOUR side. :tup:

BigJoshuaP:

--- Quote ---On 2004-12-15 11:18:00, velvet2000 wrote:

"The purpose of this forum is to serve as a safe anonymous support network for survivors of AARC. AARC staff post replies, topics etc, which are typically hostile towards survivors, and  untruthful about "aarc recovery". Because they are not using the forum for its purpose and are creating a "rap" or "blast rap" forum instead, those staff members are not given a voice here. The description of this forum clearly states its purpose and the rules for posting. Any topic that does not add to the feeling of safety and support for AARC grads has no place here and should be posted somewhere else on the enormous world wide web where there is always room for discussion of any flavor. "

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Marnie, you delete posts that arent even harmful to your "cause"  :roll: You delete posts that make sense and throw doubt at people. Im not on staff... I have been out of there for ove 7.5 years! I think you were lost...and needed to fit in somewhere...so you find all of the aarc haters who couldnt look after themselves and gave them a place to vent.. As for "surviving" - the simple fact that you are alive today is probably a symbol of what aarc has done for you, even though you continually negate any gratitude towards the place.

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