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Getting honest about statistics
Hamiltonf:
--- Quote ---On 2004-12-15 11:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"yeah, but it just creates an atmosphere of doubt, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand and support the need for a safe place to talk about this kind of shit but I've seen on other Fornits forums how if you let them spout off it's there for everyone to see. They reveal the truth in their own posts and on a few occasions some have really seen what a destructive hold and effect it had on them.
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I can understand that especially if you can see what is said in its full context.
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No one who is out has anything to fear from them anymore and the more rope you give these people the better, IMO. Remember, the truth is on YOUR side. ::read::
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velvet2000:
--- Quote ---On 2004-12-15 11:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"yeah, but it just creates an atmosphere of doubt, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand and support the need for a safe place to talk about this kind of shit but I've seen on other Fornits forums how if you let them spout off it's there for everyone to see. They reveal the truth in their own posts and on a few occasions some have really seen what a destructive hold and effect it had on them.
No one who is out has anything to fear from them anymore and the more rope you give these people the better, IMO. Remember, the truth is on YOUR side. :tup: "
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Thanks anonymous. I think the difference between our forum and Kids/Straights forums is that AARC is still up and running and there are many new graduates. Those new graduates are still living near AARC, living with family who may still be a part of it etc. Those grads are all lurking these sites and contacting us privately but they don't want to post because they don't want to partake in the AARC atmosphere. They start posting when the AARC staff are quiet, and then the AARC staff start posting out of fear once those grads make their posts. You are right that it shows their true colors, and it's educational for outsiders to read such posts, and many posts are left on for that very reason. But all in all I'd really just like these new grads to know that they don't have to listen to that stuff anymore, and that they can come here to anonymously say how they feel without having a derogatory response. It's important right now that these grads have a place to do this. I'm sorry if it's offensive to some people, but the only posts which are deleted are the hostile ones or any post coming from the same IP as a person who has made a hostile post.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-12-15 15:49:00, BigJoshuaP wrote:
"the simple fact that you are alive today is probably a symbol of what aarc has done for you"
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A simple comment was made last night about how that sounded very cultlike. The intention was to place emphasis on the power and influence of stepcraft even 9 years into Big JP's sobriety. This morning, my post was gone. I haven't a clue why that post was deleted. Forums are for discussion and when that discussion is quashed, the forum's purpose becomes self serving in nature. No matter what the intention of the moderator/admin is, the forum must be flexible enough to grow, evolve, and foster free speech. I can certainly understand the edit of posts that could be harmful to those fresh out of AARC seeking a network of support, however the post that was most recently deleted was harmless in my own opinion. Velvet, can you please explain how that post violated your terms?
velvet2000:
I don't remember the post. It's possible that I deleted it accidentally if it was a reply to one of Josh's because he posts so frequently and I don't have the time to read them all. Or if your response quoted the entire context of Josh's post I may have thought I was still deleting the same one. I don't have any intention to censor you, so if I deleted a normal response from you I'm sorry, and you are welcome to post it again.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-12-16 09:46:00, velvet2000 wrote:
"I don't remember the post. It's possible that I deleted it accidentally if it was a reply to one of Josh's because he posts so frequently and I don't have the time to read them all. Or if your response quoted the entire context of Josh's post I may have thought I was still deleting the same one. I don't have any intention to censor you, so if I deleted a normal response from you I'm sorry, and you are welcome to post it again.
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Understood. Thanks Velvet.
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