***To my knowledge this [masturbation] isn't an infraction.***
To your knowledge? So, you don?t know?
***No one watches them go to the bathroom or take a shower. Don't know about other programs, but wwasps doesn't do the point reduction for this unless (possibly), like I said, it is seriously getting in the way of other activities.***
But, now you know. Sounds more like assumptions.
*** i agree that some of the contents are similar to est/lifespring seminars. I disagree they are the same from what I've read about them.***
So, you too draw conclusions and form opinions based on information you read? Ironic !
***There was no brow beating.***
Your perception, which is contrary to others.
***No one told us what we were supposed to think or feel or believe. Maybe that's the big difference.***
So, I?ll ask again. Do you believe that "Everything you think is real, isn't... and everything you think isn't real, is."
*** I don't agree with knowing the contents prior to a seminar. If we don't like it, we can leave, though in all the seminars I've participated in and staffed, only two left, and one came back after a break, by her own choice, not coerced.***
Again, this is contrary to others experiences. I said, know the ?philosophy?, although the basic content should be disclosed as well. It is easy to understand how parents feel deceived and coerced when they find themselves in a seminar without prior knowledge of what, or whose theory they are going to be subjected to, and contact with their child is dependent on their participation. Might have fewer ?disgruntled? parents if this was disclosed before they made a financial commitment to the program. And none of you ever answered the question that was posed regarding the animosity/disdain/judgment held toward these parents, especially the ones who ?rescue their little darlings?.
***If you are familiar with alternative medicine, then it would seem you would appreciate alternatives to therapy, drugs for depression, ADD and other things that can be changed by changing life's stress levels or becoming conscious of behaviors.***
Not the argument. The argument is incarceration, labeling one family member (the teen) as the source of the family?s problem. Rigid rules and questionable BM techniques. Using contact with parents as punishment (or motivation), etc, etc, etc. The alternatives I?m familiar with do not include such austere rigidity, disrespect, and abuse as a means to an end.
***I don't think there's anything I will say that will convince you that it works, if the person chooses to do the inner work.***
I am convinced that you feel happy and satisfied, that you genuinely believe it works. Based on your comments, it is my belief that you still have some more work to do in the direction of understanding what constitutes genuine respect for others, particularly teens, and unsuspecting parents. It is quiet possible that everything you currently believe to be truth, isn?t?. and everything you believe isn?t truth, is?. Time will tell. For the moment, enjoy your happiness and satisfaction. If nothing else, it?s a reprieve, before the next level of awareness hits like a bolt of lightening.
